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Response to gejohnston (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:08 PM

35. English Castle Doctrine includes a VERY strong duty to retreat, always has

The NRA ALEC written laws called shoot first laws do not. Every other developed, civilized nation in the world has some version of a castle doctrine which ALWAYS requires a duty to retreat until unable to do so -- and that was the law in the U.S. for most of our existence as well.

The Frank Luntz poll does NOT support the status quol.

Every state that does not provide the requisite information to the NICS data base is controlled by Republicans or prevented from funding that action by Republicans -- that was the intention in the NRA demanding that state participation in the NICS be voluntary.

Every time there is a mass shooting, like Loughner, like James Holmes, gun sales go up. So it makes perfect sense that the NRA doesn't want to stop these mass shootings - it's good for the business they REALLY represent.

We have record numbers of children killed and injured every year - more than those of the 25 countries most like us combined.
We have far higher numbers of violence by gun crimes than other nations, including both homicides and suicides.
Walmart alone has had more than one shooting a week this year at their stores -- many of them by people with concealed carry either committing crimes or having accidents. Not only have people been hurt and killed, but many innocent toilets in their mens rooms have been shot (seriously - you guys haven't apparently figured out how to go to the john without an accidental discharge).

The typical NRA member is old, white, crabby and flabby. Your board member is a draft dodging felon, who shouldn't own guns.

So don't argue how law abiding and supportive of the law the NRA is; the evidence suggests otherwise.

I just came across this group; at least they came up with an original way to make their point:

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