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In reply to the discussion: 'Stand your ground' promotes violence [View all]ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)110. Practice vs theory.
In practice, most states that had laws requiring a retreat enforced them in a way that resulted in "turn your back, close your eyes and hope for the best". From a tactical point of view, always requiring a specific action (fleeing) is a bad thing. The tactics need to be governed by the circumstances. Sometimes fleeing is a better option, sometimes fighting is the better option.
Yes, de-escalating is always the best option. Sometimes it does not work.
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Well, you are lying. What else would you call the claim that over half my posts were deleted
DanTex
Oct 2012
#92
As another strong black man, I am calling BS on this story for the third time on DU
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#7
The piece in the OP ignored and misstated things from the DA's report in an effort to support her
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#16
Then you have not been listening and have little appreciation for the history on the matter
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#20
I see some, and GLBTs and women who are choosing to own guns for self defense out of necessity
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#31
That changes when they are personally targeted and realize there is no help other than themselves
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#37
We not only rarely prevent crime, but we are not responsible for an individuals safety
glacierbay
Oct 2012
#104
Blinded by ideology perfectly explains you and every other Brady Campaign hanger on.
Clames
Oct 2012
#44
As opposed to 'progressives' like Ronald Reagan (Mulford Act), William Bennett, and Mike Bloomberg?
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#45
Yes, but overall, gun control advocates are overwhelmingly progressives, whereas
DanTex
Oct 2012
#55
Do you think poor minorities in urban areas should have the same RKBA as other Americans?
Eleanors38
Oct 2012
#46
I think that all Americans have the right to live in a society that is not plagued by gun violence.
DanTex
Oct 2012
#54
Most Americans *do* live in a society that is not plagued by gun violence.
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#57
LOL. Apparently, gun fanatics find pseudointellectual nonsense to be irresistible!
DanTex
Oct 2012
#60
when you are able to see the bigger picture perhaps you can join in on the intelligent conversation
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#62
I know. but, for just a minute, it was nice. Let me enjoy the after glow a moment longer.
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#67
from now on YOU can NOT call me a gun Fanatic because I have NEVER said such -
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#69
OK. If you agree that gun availability is a significant contributor to gun violence
DanTex
Oct 2012
#72
kind of like saying only criminals commit crime. Your statement is a DUH. sorry but really
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#74
yes You will get less GUN crime but, will you get LESS crime? No. Not according to statistics -
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#86
all the more reason we need to address the underlying issues wouldn't you agree?
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#96
Wrong. Every since Ug clubbed Uhooga in that cave so long ago there has been
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#109
Do you guys normally overlook inequality, poverty and corruption? Or just when convenient?
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#77
Cherry Pick the whole world? USA, Mexico, Haiti, and Guatemala are the only countries I know
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#88
are you being deliberately obtuse? I ask in all honesty and sincerity.
Tuesday Afternoon
Oct 2012
#95
Yes- and I think gun availability is *far* down the causative list for violent crime.
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#105
I have mixed feeling about duty to retreat and commensurate force requirements
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#39
And the NRA's candidate buying campaign had nothing to do with it ... Right?
1StrongBlackMan
Oct 2012
#113
so you don't believe that a man has a right to use deadly force against an intruder in his own home?
trouble.smith
Oct 2012
#49
I do not believe that the door would have held Fredenberg back for more than a few seconds
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#33
Even when I had my rifle, I would have gone into my house and called the police.
Piazza Riforma
Oct 2012
#6
There are any number of points that day where violence could have been avoided
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#22
Never did I say he had to accept "his beatdown". I DID say that by getting involved with her he did
Piazza Riforma
Oct 2012
#30
Never said you did. The comments in the home town paper were an interesting read
ProgressiveProfessor
Oct 2012
#32
Pretty bad when an author can't tell the difference between castle doctrine and SYG.
AtheistCrusader
Oct 2012
#43
When you have the Truth on your side you can be kind of sloppy with the truth.
4th law of robotics
Oct 2012
#122