Gun Control & RKBA

AtheistCrusader

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161. By all means, go back and dig up the results of the survey in General Discussion.

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Sun Jan 8, 2012, 12:49 AM

Jan 2012

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OK everyone, let's clear the air here about the word "tote" [View all] Starboard Tack Jan 2012 OP

How about the word "grab" or "grabber"? Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #1

Huh? Since when did grab mean tote? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #3

Huh? When did I say it did? Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #4

Why wouldn't I be? What does it have to do with the OP? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #5

I think the word 'tote' has a negative connotation: like 'lug', petronius Jan 2012 #2

I see no negative connotation with the word "tote" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #6

You asked a question, and I answered it. And despite your transparent disingenuousness petronius Jan 2012 #7

If you can demonstrate how the word is, in any way, offensive, I shall be happy to defer Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #8

Again: you asked a question, I assumed you were sincere, so I answered it petronius Jan 2012 #9

There is a poster here who has repeatedly linked the word to a variety of negative conotations.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #42

No, sorry. Toter is a word used by many toters. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #46

No, "toter" is a word used by the anti-gun folks. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #55

"It is used by Hoyt as a slur" iverglas Jan 2012 #64

Educate yourself on Hoyt and "toter" by ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #79

read what I said and reply to it iverglas Jan 2012 #91

What part has left you confused? ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #103

You are arguing with the Jello. Don't waste your time. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #164

Really? Better tell these guys. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #70

I have never heard one person who has a concealed weapons permit... spin Jan 2012 #68

I'm relieved that it doesn't bother you Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #71

I have never heard of either company... spin Jan 2012 #120

Does the fact you haven't heard of them invalidate them in some way? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #127

No as I said the term "toter" doesn't bother me in the least... spin Jan 2012 #135

Now cops in Fla. are using armed citizens as backups? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #194

Did you read the entire post? We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #195

Lighten up there WHAP Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #198

It would be easier... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #199

Ah, but not on a Monday morning. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #200

I'm sure this was a rare incident in a small town... spin Jan 2012 #196

I know. Just couldn't help myself. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #197

I once witnessed an accident... spin Jan 2012 #201

and the N word is a word used by many N people. Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #192

Enjoy your experience on DU Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #193

I was simply pointing out that just because some people use a word without rancor, does not mean Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #202

Really? And who would "N" people be? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #203

I'm plumb tuckered out from totin' my shootin' iron all over tarnation. Straw Man Jan 2012 #10

I think the majority of DUers have a much harsher view of people who carry/tote/strap-on, etc. Hoyt Jan 2012 #34

Do you have any proof to back up your "suspicions"? Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #35

Yes. Hoyt Jan 2012 #44

So, no. Got it. Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #63

You took an off ramp by mistak there dude. Jump back on at the next exit. nt rrneck Jan 2012 #37

good lord Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #62

Not a myth at all. Hoyt Jan 2012 #84

if you say so -- -- Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #94

Hoyt - you are absolutely correct. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #75

I stumbled in here as well and was disappointed to see folks promoting more guns. Hoyt Jan 2012 #88

wtf Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #96

I said that I wish more Democrats like Starboard Tack posted about would come here. Hoyt Jan 2012 #110

no that is not what you said. You have rephrased it in your subjectline. As for the rest of your Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #112

I responded to S Tack, so holster your gun. Hoyt Jan 2012 #113

you replied on a public message board for all to read and reply to as they see fit Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #115

It was weird the first time in here to see Democrats spewing all the same right-wing... DanTex Jan 2012 #102

Exactly. Well said. Hoyt Jan 2012 #108

respectfully, I disagree. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #116

That has not been my experience, and I respectfully disagree gejohnston Jan 2012 #124

Just to be clear, you're accusing me of "detest(ing) working class and rural Americans". DanTex Jan 2012 #173

when they read between the lines gejohnston Jan 2012 #179

Very well said Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #137

It's incredible... ellisonz Jan 2012 #139

As a church/state separation near absolutist, gejohnston Jan 2012 #150

To the best of my knowledge... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #175

I agree Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #169

I notice some dichotomy between your points. mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #157

I know. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #168

By all means, go back and dig up the results of the survey in General Discussion. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #161

Post #42 confirmed. Thanks for your assistance. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #165

I love NWA. And the airline as well. Isn't term-rehab wonderful? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #180

How about "packer" - that's pretty innoucuous. ellisonz Jan 2012 #11

How about carrier? It seems to be what those who actually do it prefer... petronius Jan 2012 #12

Only with a couple conditions... ellisonz Jan 2012 #13

A deal? You misunderstand my purpose in this thread: as I told ST above I don't petronius Jan 2012 #17

Since some seem to take it as an offense...I'm offering compromise. ellisonz Jan 2012 #19

If you need deals and compromises in order to show courtesy, I'd conclude petronius Jan 2012 #21

There are levels of civility. ellisonz Jan 2012 #23

this is your appeal for civility ?! Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #56

For disagreeing with a failing gun control policy... ellisonz Jan 2012 #129

this thread is about discussing policy civilly with fellow DUers. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #131

And I'm talking about... ellisonz Jan 2012 #138

I realize that I am being hyperbolic in this thread in order to make my point. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #140

That's not hyperbolic, that's disrespect. ellisonz Jan 2012 #142

the OP was disrespectful from the start. good night. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #145

LOL. What do you expect from a [g-worder]? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #181

The word is "grabber." He doesn't mind it at all. Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #182

actually, I don't think ellisonz needs anything iverglas Jan 2012 #67

And I would say that your response demonstrates a failure to understand petronius Jan 2012 #118

your smiley failed ;) iverglas Jan 2012 #65

That shit is annoying. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #130

Carrier is more apt for an airline or a pigeon Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #47

You clearly have no interest in settling this. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #49

I grew up raising carrier pigeons Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #53

I have nothing to settle. I have made my position clear. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #149

haha iverglas Jan 2012 #69

Thanks gejohnston Jan 2012 #119

Happy to help. Did you check out the Toter Jeans too? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #122

If I actually get a pocket pistol I may. gejohnston Jan 2012 #126

Exactly. That is the word. Union Scribe Jan 2012 #48

Innocuous? I ask you... Straw Man Jan 2012 #14

So you're conceeding it's in common use? n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #15

Well, it was in 1943, anyway. Straw Man Jan 2012 #16

AP is still using it. ellisonz Jan 2012 #18

AP headlines aren't good models of usage. Straw Man Jan 2012 #20

"You do see the irony here, don't you?" ellisonz Jan 2012 #22

Threatening people with language is uncivil Union Scribe Jan 2012 #51

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #99

I really should make a list of all the nastiness that's been directed towards me in this forum... ellisonz Jan 2012 #133

That might start a bunch of shit with some football fans. rrneck Jan 2012 #38

yeah, if this is Green Bay... Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #98

Green bay Packers? rl6214 Jan 2012 #141

Common use one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #24

Stop being obtuse. ileus Jan 2012 #25

hey, I like that one: "rotten fuckass toter" Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #58

I don't find it insulting in the least, and I are one. mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author ileus Jan 2012 #27

Congratulations! Someone who understands English. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #39

with the way you are reasoning this Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #117

death spewer toter.... ileus Jan 2012 #28

meh Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #59

That's Imah totin' ileus Jan 2012 #107

Imah so sorry. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #111

It's a term used in a DELIBERATELY pejorative manner MicaelS Jan 2012 #29

I'm glad you like it Fredjust Jan 2012 #31

You're a rude toter aren't you. ileus Jan 2012 #32

"Gun militant"... DanTex Jan 2012 #54

if and when Wayne or Mike or that other guy post in this group feel free to use it on them Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #60

And also, I'm going to keep "using it on them" even if they don't post here. DanTex Jan 2012 #82

as long you make the reference clear and don't use it on your fellow good and proper DUers. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #85

oooh, it's moi! iverglas Jan 2012 #78

Well said rl6214 Jan 2012 #144

the word does not offend me but, out of respect of my fellow DUers who are offended Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #30

How about "schlep"? JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #33

Schlep is OK, but has the connotation of it being tiresome. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #40

No matter, I usually use the word "carry" JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2012 #76

Just like every other word it depends on how you use it. rrneck Jan 2012 #36

I accept responsibility for using the word Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #41

You accept responsibility for its use, but not for its intent. rrneck Jan 2012 #45

And it's intent. How you interpret is up to you. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #52

No, you're not sorry. rrneck Jan 2012 #57

excellent post, rrneck Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #61

You are correct. I am not sorry. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #66

I guess you had a little trouble reading there. rrneck Jan 2012 #74

Sorry, but I'm not sorry I was sorry about being sorry. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #77

That's what I thought. rrneck Jan 2012 #80

You couldn't be more correct. I'm so sorry. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #86

Prove you're sorry. nt rrneck Jan 2012 #89

Prove I'm not. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #97

Sorry, can't prove a negative. rrneck Jan 2012 #104

OK I'm back and glad to know you don't have aproblem with the word "toter" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #143

If you don't like unsubstantiated insults rrneck Jan 2012 #148

No personal insults intended. No evasion either. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #151

More plauseable deniability. We'll see. nt rrneck Jan 2012 #152

not a thing, grabber. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #90

LOL! rrneck Jan 2012 #95

you were sorry about being sorry but, now you are not because Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #87

Some people just don't know rrneck Jan 2012 #92

I don't think you are as mean spirited as you like to appear. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #146

I am as mean spirited as I need to be. rrneck Jan 2012 #147

That's your choice and your opinion Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #154

Anybody that reads this thread rrneck Jan 2012 #156

I'm sure you are right Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #170

Damn. Sorry about the confusion Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #100

don't worry Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #101

Gah! rrneck Jan 2012 #105

Ha! Well, I guess we see gun-g------s coming back in? "Sorry." nt SteveW Jan 2012 #183

It is pretty obvious you're not the least bit sorry MicaelS Jan 2012 #81

Of course I'm not sorry. Are you serious? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #121

Well said, spot on. ileus Jan 2012 #109

To quote a former member: "What a steaming pantload." beevul Jan 2012 #83

Which poster are you referring to? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #93

google it at site:DU iverglas Jan 2012 #106

Ask and you shall receive. beevul Jan 2012 #114

"tote" has the connotation of carrying something heavy and/or awkward. krispos42 Jan 2012 #43

Interesting. Where do you get the heavy/awkward thing from? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #50

Wikipedia, which I believe reflects current usage. krispos42 Jan 2012 #123

Good point. Maybe guns used to be heavier. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #128

Haven't you repeatedly claimed that you owned no firearms? n/t oneshooter Jan 2012 #136

I personally... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #72

I don't mind any which way. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #73

Boy howdy, this thread really cleared the air. rrneck Jan 2012 #125

oh lord Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #134

Spot-on, and wonderfully eloquent to boot!! NT Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #158

Wonderful summary of desiring a (concealed) license to murder-mouth. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #184

In response to my comment about the word "tote" rl6214 Jan 2012 #132

Fair enough. No toters. No grabbers or packers from now on. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #153

No need to go overboard. rrneck Jan 2012 #162

Oh alright. As long as we're all still friends. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #167

You would not think so if you had known me a few years ago. oneshooter Jan 2012 #174

I'll own up to misinterpretations and some mean comments from time to time Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #176

FWIW... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #177

Back atcha! Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #178

Proud toter reporting in. Pacafishmate Jan 2012 #155

Welcome to DU! rrneck Jan 2012 #166

Some of you toters/carriers/CCWers/packers need to get thicker skins. mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #159

Bullshit. AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #160

Haven't you heard. I have conceded and will no longer use that awful word. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #171

Any group sufficiently large, interactive, and historically cumulative will develop its own culture. X_Digger Jan 2012 #163

Believe it or not I didn't steal from or copy Hoyt Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #172

you might be interested in what is going on elsewhere in DU regarding words and meaning Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #185

Yeah, I've been reading those threads. Very interesting. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #187

thanks. weird, how stuff bothers some people and not others. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #189

So does this mean I can't say rude toter anymore? ??? ileus Jan 2012 #186

You can say whatever you like. It's your choice. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #188

Thanks everyone for your input. I really appreciate it. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #190

While I feel that "rude toter" is a bit abrasive ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #191