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MercutioATC

(28,470 posts)
19. Perhaps a more civil tone here...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:54 PM
Sep 2012

1) High-capacity magazines are a phantom issue. I don't train regularly and I can drop an empty magazine and load a full one in less than four seconds. What difference does it really make if I fire 30 rounds from one magazine or have to pause for 4 seconds halfway through to fire the last 15? It's seriously not an issue.

2) "Assault rifles" have, in fact, been heavily regulated since the 1930's. An "assault weapon" is simply a semiautomatic rifle that bears no practical difference to most hunting rifles other than it's usually black and "looks scary" to some people. It's like putting a rear spoiler, neon lights and shiny wheels on a car and painting it black. It's still just a car, but it looks different. Functionally, an "assault weapon" is no different than a hunting rifle.

The problem is that, just as certain pro-gun groups spread untruths to gain support, certain anti-gun groups also spread untruths to gain support. They both use (or create from whole cloth) hot-button issues that have little basis in fact to scare people who don't have a lot of actual knowledge of the subject.

Obama is NOT going to take everybody's guns and neither "assault weapons" nor high-capacity magazines have any appreciable effect on gun crime.

Who needs Congress? Executive order and some good judges can do what's necessary. Loudly Sep 2012 #1
Consequences will be the same Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #2
so how would you vote? . . . who would you send your $$$ to? . . . who would you make calls for? DrDan Sep 2012 #3
how would you label Jerry Brown? gejohnston Sep 2012 #6
Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #7
Voters can't do shit about what judges want. ileus Sep 2012 #21
Sorry glacierbay Sep 2012 #4
Because some people are using high-capacity... Deep13 Sep 2012 #5
Ditto 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #8
Well Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #9
Always with the nasty tone 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #15
I am trying to understand but, I am sorry - I do not see the nasty tone in that post Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2012 #17
Perhaps a more civil tone here... MercutioATC Sep 2012 #19
Thank you. That was very pretty. 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #20
You RegieRocker Sep 2012 #42
Yes, that's correct 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #43
And I am impressed. Don't let us put you off here in the gun forum, TPaine7 Sep 2012 #44
Is Reasonable Argument a member of the NRA? Marengo Sep 2012 #25
If by "nasty tone" you mean truth and uncomfortable facts, then yeah, maybe so. PavePusher Sep 2012 #28
assault rifles have been tightly regulated and registered since the 1930s gejohnston Sep 2012 #12
You mean rifles like this one? oneshooter Sep 2012 #22
I'm thinking of the 34-rd. Glock magazines... Deep13 Sep 2012 #23
What is the difference between those and the one shown? oneshooter Sep 2012 #24
I'm guessing 10-20 rounds. nt Deep13 Sep 2012 #35
So it is ONLY the ammunition capacity that you care about? oneshooter Sep 2012 #48
Mostly, and concealability. Deep13 Sep 2012 #50
The "regulation" you refer to is related to the militia, not the people when outside the militia. PavePusher Sep 2012 #52
The "people's right" is the right to insure regulated, state security. Deep13 Sep 2012 #55
Take a look at what actually happened in real life. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #53
Why Glock? gejohnston Sep 2012 #26
You mean the Five-Seven? Deep13 Sep 2012 #34
You can get 30 round mags for the five seven gejohnston Sep 2012 #36
I've got 20-rounders for my Beretta carbine. Deep13 Sep 2012 #40
I believe the long magazines were built for the full-auto Glock 18 krispos42 Sep 2012 #45
They're great in the G19 at the range. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #57
Collapsible stocks? They only shorten the weapon by 4.72 inches on an M4 type rifle. That's not rDigital Sep 2012 #27
I know it's not the manufacturer's purpose. Deep13 Sep 2012 #30
he didn't use an AK gejohnston Sep 2012 #32
I see. Deep13 Sep 2012 #41
The Batman shooter used an M&P-15 (AR-15), a Remington 870 shotgun and a Glock 22. No AK in sight. rDigital Sep 2012 #37
"collapsible, concealable stocks" PavePusher Sep 2012 #29
I realize the buffer tube limits the collapsability Deep13 Sep 2012 #31
with a 14 inch barrel, gejohnston Sep 2012 #33
A fixed flash-suppresor counts as part of the barrel length. (welded or pinned) PavePusher Sep 2012 #39
Sigh. PavePusher Sep 2012 #38
Some people are also using fertilizer and fuel oil to commit mass murder. MercutioATC Sep 2012 #58
John Kasich proved you wrong. safeinOhio Sep 2012 #10
This was discussed in another post Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #11
All the excuses in the world do not safeinOhio Sep 2012 #14
McCain was never all that popular with gun owners. ... spin Sep 2012 #54
How much was due to high tech ballot stuffing? gejohnston Sep 2012 #13
Clinton's anti-gun stance was enough for me to not vote for him! Yavapai Sep 2012 #16
it is the Democratic Party, has been since Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans gejohnston Sep 2012 #18
The Deadly Myth of Gun Control in Electoral Politics SecularMotion Sep 2012 #46
I agree with that analysis Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #47
So why, exactly, are you crusading for a revival of the 1993 issue? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #49
Yeah, let's just the NRA run the entire show. MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #51
Why do you equate private gun ownership with the NRA? MercutioATC Sep 2012 #56
You make a damn good point. ... spin Sep 2012 #59
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