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The Magistrate

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16. You Do Understand, Mr. Caulfield, That Your Juggled Statistics Compare Apples To Oranges....
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:25 PM
Aug 2012

You are attempting to suggest by quoting numbers that Chicago is more dangerous to its citizens than Afghanistan is to U.S. soldiers. But there are more than twenty-five times as many people in Chicago than there are U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan, so actually a soldier in Afghanistan runs roughly twelve to fifteen times the chance of being killed by hostile action. The matter is further muddied by the fact that, so far as wars go, U.S. forces in Afghanistan suffer unusually few fatalities. Casualty rates in Viet Nam, on a per capita engaged calculation, ran at rates five to six times higher than rates in Afghanistan, and casualty rates in U.S. combat units in WWII ran even higher than that. To go and shoot the whole works, the number of U.S. soldiers who die in a month in Afghanistan is generally less than the number of people who die of all causes in Chicago on a typical day ( heart failure of one sort or another accounting for nearly half of them, and dwarfing the number dead as a result of crime ). Thus, given the relative size of the populations, a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan is not much more likely to die of hostile action than a typical urban civilian is to die of natural causes, which establishes the Afghan War as one of the safest in history for a combatant force on one side, and demonstrates it is certainly not to be taken as some kind of metric for extreme danger, which it is then pretended a city in the U.S. exceeds.

Why do you have such an obsession with Chicago? rfranklin Aug 2012 #1
How many of those cities have banned guns? nt shadowrider Aug 2012 #2
Why do you have a problem with it? Equate Aug 2012 #3
I believe you're wrong about that holdencaufield Aug 2012 #4
What's going on recently in Chicago proves Jenoch Aug 2012 #5
They have illegal guns...can you just imagine if they had legal guns that movonne Aug 2012 #7
the murder rate would remain the same gejohnston Aug 2012 #8
Like Houston, for example? Almost the same size as Chicago, 1/2 the murder rate. friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #31
Have you ever seen what melanoma can do to a person? rfranklin Aug 2012 #10
You Do Understand, Mr. Caulfield, That Your Juggled Statistics Compare Apples To Oranges.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #16
Which cities??? emilyg Aug 2012 #27
So It Is Your Contention, Sir, That Wider Ownership Of Guns Would Alter This? The Magistrate Aug 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Aug 2012 #9
My contention is merely there's an Aurora every single weekend in Chicago, yet there is shadowrider Aug 2012 #11
Except There Is Not, Sir: That Is Wretched Hyperbole The Magistrate Aug 2012 #13
Yeah yeah yeah shadowrider Aug 2012 #19
I Know, Sir: Facts Are Wretched Things For Somebody Who Thinks Gun Control Caused Hitler The Magistrate Aug 2012 #20
I don't think anyone would argue that gun control... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #21
The Technical Term For That, Sir, Is Bullshit The Magistrate Aug 2012 #22
If you're going to use satire... holdencaufield Aug 2012 #24
Nice To See The String Of Fact-Free, Logic-Less 'Rebuttals' Continued, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #25
Why bother with a reply? It won't change your mind and I won't change mine. shadowrider Aug 2012 #26
Hmmmm... TPaine7 Aug 2012 #34
Correct. I have emilyg Aug 2012 #28
Well, sir, it is patently obvious that wider ownership of guns wouldn't make things any worse. S_B_Jackson Aug 2012 #14
You Do Understand, Sir, Your Comments Do Not Touch Reality At a Single Point.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #15
Wow, you don't know shit about gang violence. Union Scribe Aug 2012 #17
My Ignorance Is Legend, Sir, And Chicago My Life-Time Home.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #18
One wonders why your home has twice the murder rate of "gun-friendly" Houston... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #32
Nirvana Fallacy. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #33
What changes would you propose to remedy this situation? oneshooter Aug 2012 #29
Did he state that or are you just imagining that, sir? Clames Aug 2012 #30
Over 3 days and no answer. I would say that you have no ideas to prevent this from happining again. oneshooter Aug 2012 #35
gangs are terrorists and terrorists have mental health issues. Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #12
Update: 30 shot, 6 dead since Friday evening. n/t shadowrider Aug 2012 #23
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