Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

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58. I don't dispute the fact that the NRA can influence congressional elections.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #56)

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:48 PM

Aug 2012

I do dispute the myth of Republicans gaining control of Congress in 1994 as backlash for the AWB.

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NRA wants new open-carry gun law in Florida [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP

Does it have citizen support? ileus Aug 2012 #1

Did you forget to add the sarcasm tag again? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #2

No, the poster is an NRA supporter... rfranklin Aug 2012 #3

You have any proof of that? ileus Aug 2012 #4

Do you take issue with any of their positions? rfranklin Aug 2012 #5

And you of course can show that "guns for everyone, everywhere, all the time." hack89 Aug 2012 #6

Can you point to any case in which they want gun control? rfranklin Aug 2012 #7

They were a driving force behind the present background check system hack89 Aug 2012 #8

However, at the same time they fight for the right of a person to buy dozens of guns a day... rfranklin Aug 2012 #9

That is not the same as "guns for everyone, everywhere, all the time." hack89 Aug 2012 #10

Sure, after the gun runner drives away from the "legal" sale at the gun shop... rfranklin Aug 2012 #14

So how do you stop straw purchases? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #19

False. The NRA is against straw buyers. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #27

If you can prove straw-sale intent in advance... PavePusher Aug 2012 #37

oh horseshit! No legitmate gun owner needs to buy dozens of guns a month... rfranklin Aug 2012 #40

Multiple pistol purchases are already flagged by the ATF Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #41

When they set up a dept Missycim Aug 2012 #42

"No legitmate gun owner needs to buy dozens of guns a month..." PavePusher Aug 2012 #43

Why don't you, Mr. Smarty Pants, show me why any sane person needs to buy dozens of guns monthly? rfranklin Aug 2012 #48

No, I won't, for two reasons: PavePusher Aug 2012 #62

You are taking the same position that Romney does versus Harry Reid... rfranklin Aug 2012 #64

But if a LEGITIMATE gun owner WANTS to buy dozens of guns a month Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #45

Makes it likely that the person is mentally ill... rfranklin Aug 2012 #47

Collecting=/="Compulsive hoarding" PavePusher Aug 2012 #65

So, as a collector, you want a dozen of each model? rfranklin Aug 2012 #72

So, basically what you're saying is you really don't have an answer, got it. NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #70

"Need" has nothing to do with it. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #55

Perhaps you can cite where... Marengo Aug 2012 #11

The NRA isnt Missycim Aug 2012 #12

But their leadership is hard right and lies to gin up opposition to Democrats.... rfranklin Aug 2012 #13

Then how do you Missycim Aug 2012 #15

NRA VP Wayne LaPierre: Obama Will Take Your Guns If Elected To A Second Term rfranklin Aug 2012 #16

I asked you not about him Missycim Aug 2012 #17

This is just a shot in the dark Missycim Aug 2012 #18

And if the NRA stopped their drive to weaken gun laws SecularMotion Aug 2012 #20

Well they wouldn't have gotten so big (NRA) Missycim Aug 2012 #21

You've just provided another reason why Democrats should not support the NRA. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #24

Never said the should Missycim Aug 2012 #25

Do you mean the NRA interpretation of a "robust" 2nd amendment? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #26

Well has its been proven time and again Missycim Aug 2012 #28

When Democrats do stupid things like the AWB hack89 Aug 2012 #39

You and the NRA classify the AWB as a "stupid thing" SecularMotion Aug 2012 #44

Since the AWB played a large role in ensuring that the Democrats did not have control of Congress hack89 Aug 2012 #49

That's NRA propaganda SecularMotion Aug 2012 #50

ever read "My Life" by gejohnston Aug 2012 #51

Here's another viewpoint SecularMotion Aug 2012 #57

I would never have a life long Republican gejohnston Aug 2012 #63

Bill Clinton would disagree with you. hack89 Aug 2012 #52

Out of 54 seats lost in Congress that year the NRA claimed 19. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #54

So what's the big deal then? hack89 Aug 2012 #56

I don't dispute the fact that the NRA can influence congressional elections. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #58

Something certainly has left Dems gun shy about the issue hack89 Aug 2012 #59

Yes, it was totally a stupid "feel good" law that backfired badly ... spin Aug 2012 #53

Obama has made no moves to restrict gun rights... rfranklin Aug 2012 #22

I know you have your beliefs Missycim Aug 2012 #23

Just to be clear who is this "we" you refer to? rfranklin Aug 2012 #30

No me and true BOR supporters Missycim Aug 2012 #36

True Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #31

With a small tweak to make it truthful, that's not a big insult. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #29

This should be interesting. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #32

one thing you are missing gejohnston Aug 2012 #34

I was partly joking. I am a senior myself, and would not trust myself JDPriestly Aug 2012 #46

Why? Because open carry is such a huge problem everywhere else it is legal? PavePusher Aug 2012 #38

Open carry is not a problem elsewhere. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #33

It hurts their propaganda Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #35

It might hurt tourism which Florida depends on ... spin Aug 2012 #61

It hasn't seemed to harm tourism elsewhere, not sure why that would happen in Florida. PavePusher Aug 2012 #67

some places tourists would expect to see it gejohnston Aug 2012 #68

You might be right ... spin Aug 2012 #71

I would like to see that law here in Texas. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #60

back to the subject at hand, gejohnston Aug 2012 #66

At least it would make it easier to identify the Zimmermans and bigots. Hoyt Aug 2012 #69