Gun Control & RKBA

SecularMotion

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50. That's NRA propaganda

Mon Aug 13, 2012, 03:53 PM

Aug 2012

Last edited Mon Aug 13, 2012, 04:59 PM - Edit history (1)

The AWB may have been a factor in the 1994 election but it certainly didn't play a "large role" as you and the NRA claim. The "Contract With America" captured the imaginations of many Americans and helped the Republicans gain control of Congress. The "Contract With America" made no mention of the AWB and made no promises to overturn the law.

Using your logic it would be fair to claim that the Democrats were able to regain control of Congress in 2006 after the Republicans allowed the AWB to expire in 2004.

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NRA wants new open-carry gun law in Florida [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP

Does it have citizen support? ileus Aug 2012 #1

Did you forget to add the sarcasm tag again? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #2

No, the poster is an NRA supporter... rfranklin Aug 2012 #3

You have any proof of that? ileus Aug 2012 #4

Do you take issue with any of their positions? rfranklin Aug 2012 #5

And you of course can show that "guns for everyone, everywhere, all the time." hack89 Aug 2012 #6

Can you point to any case in which they want gun control? rfranklin Aug 2012 #7

They were a driving force behind the present background check system hack89 Aug 2012 #8

However, at the same time they fight for the right of a person to buy dozens of guns a day... rfranklin Aug 2012 #9

That is not the same as "guns for everyone, everywhere, all the time." hack89 Aug 2012 #10

Sure, after the gun runner drives away from the "legal" sale at the gun shop... rfranklin Aug 2012 #14

So how do you stop straw purchases? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #19

False. The NRA is against straw buyers. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #27

If you can prove straw-sale intent in advance... PavePusher Aug 2012 #37

oh horseshit! No legitmate gun owner needs to buy dozens of guns a month... rfranklin Aug 2012 #40

Multiple pistol purchases are already flagged by the ATF Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #41

When they set up a dept Missycim Aug 2012 #42

"No legitmate gun owner needs to buy dozens of guns a month..." PavePusher Aug 2012 #43

Why don't you, Mr. Smarty Pants, show me why any sane person needs to buy dozens of guns monthly? rfranklin Aug 2012 #48

No, I won't, for two reasons: PavePusher Aug 2012 #62

You are taking the same position that Romney does versus Harry Reid... rfranklin Aug 2012 #64

But if a LEGITIMATE gun owner WANTS to buy dozens of guns a month Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #45

Makes it likely that the person is mentally ill... rfranklin Aug 2012 #47

Collecting=/="Compulsive hoarding" PavePusher Aug 2012 #65

So, as a collector, you want a dozen of each model? rfranklin Aug 2012 #72

So, basically what you're saying is you really don't have an answer, got it. NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #70

"Need" has nothing to do with it. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #55

Perhaps you can cite where... Marengo Aug 2012 #11

The NRA isnt Missycim Aug 2012 #12

But their leadership is hard right and lies to gin up opposition to Democrats.... rfranklin Aug 2012 #13

Then how do you Missycim Aug 2012 #15

NRA VP Wayne LaPierre: Obama Will Take Your Guns If Elected To A Second Term rfranklin Aug 2012 #16

I asked you not about him Missycim Aug 2012 #17

This is just a shot in the dark Missycim Aug 2012 #18

And if the NRA stopped their drive to weaken gun laws SecularMotion Aug 2012 #20

Well they wouldn't have gotten so big (NRA) Missycim Aug 2012 #21

You've just provided another reason why Democrats should not support the NRA. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #24

Never said the should Missycim Aug 2012 #25

Do you mean the NRA interpretation of a "robust" 2nd amendment? SecularMotion Aug 2012 #26

Well has its been proven time and again Missycim Aug 2012 #28

When Democrats do stupid things like the AWB hack89 Aug 2012 #39

You and the NRA classify the AWB as a "stupid thing" SecularMotion Aug 2012 #44

Since the AWB played a large role in ensuring that the Democrats did not have control of Congress hack89 Aug 2012 #49

That's NRA propaganda SecularMotion Aug 2012 #50

ever read "My Life" by gejohnston Aug 2012 #51

Here's another viewpoint SecularMotion Aug 2012 #57

I would never have a life long Republican gejohnston Aug 2012 #63

Bill Clinton would disagree with you. hack89 Aug 2012 #52

Out of 54 seats lost in Congress that year the NRA claimed 19. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #54

So what's the big deal then? hack89 Aug 2012 #56

I don't dispute the fact that the NRA can influence congressional elections. SecularMotion Aug 2012 #58

Something certainly has left Dems gun shy about the issue hack89 Aug 2012 #59

Yes, it was totally a stupid "feel good" law that backfired badly ... spin Aug 2012 #53

Obama has made no moves to restrict gun rights... rfranklin Aug 2012 #22

I know you have your beliefs Missycim Aug 2012 #23

Just to be clear who is this "we" you refer to? rfranklin Aug 2012 #30

No me and true BOR supporters Missycim Aug 2012 #36

True Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #31

With a small tweak to make it truthful, that's not a big insult. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #29

This should be interesting. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #32

one thing you are missing gejohnston Aug 2012 #34

I was partly joking. I am a senior myself, and would not trust myself JDPriestly Aug 2012 #46

Why? Because open carry is such a huge problem everywhere else it is legal? PavePusher Aug 2012 #38

Open carry is not a problem elsewhere. ManiacJoe Aug 2012 #33

It hurts their propaganda Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #35

It might hurt tourism which Florida depends on ... spin Aug 2012 #61

It hasn't seemed to harm tourism elsewhere, not sure why that would happen in Florida. PavePusher Aug 2012 #67

some places tourists would expect to see it gejohnston Aug 2012 #68

You might be right ... spin Aug 2012 #71

I would like to see that law here in Texas. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #60

back to the subject at hand, gejohnston Aug 2012 #66

At least it would make it easier to identify the Zimmermans and bigots. Hoyt Aug 2012 #69