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14. There are only 4.3 million members of the NRA ...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 11:09 AM
Aug 2012

But there are 80 million gun owners in our nation.

It is true that the NRA represents gun owner rights but if the Brady Campaign could get the majority of gun owners to agree with their views, politicians would be willing to implement the strong gun control you measure you dream of.

The NRA is largely the voice of gun owners and I believe that overall it reflects their basic views on gun control. I have personally known a number of firearm owners who once belong to the NRA but dropped their membership when they were disgusted with the constant barrage of mailings and sometimes telephone calls from the NRA-ILA seeking donations. That doesn't mean that they disagree in an significant manner with the NRA's position on gun control.

It's my contention that politicians do not fear the NRA as much as they do gun owners who show up at the polls to defend their rights.

In some largely urban and liberal areas of our nation a politician who supports strong gun control has a far better chance of being elected than one who strongly supports RKBA. Such areas include cities as Chicago where most people have little knowledge of honest and responsible gun owners but often see criminal violence caused by such weapons.

In other areas and cities of our nation where firearm ownership is common, even many of those who don't own firearms have little problem with the honest and responsible people who do because they are friends, co-workers and neighbors. In such areas of our nation it is basically political suicide to propose strong gun control measures while running for office.

The news media has a long hatred of the Second Amendment and the civilian ownership of firearms. It has tried to do everything within its power to convince Americans that we need to impose draconian gun laws. This includes purposefully distorting the truth and even lying to accomplish this goal. All their efforts have largely failed.

The media is unwilling to admit that it has totally failed to accomplish its goal. To do so would show just how little influence they really have and how little Americans respect their views. Therefore they have to find a boogie man to blame their failure on.

The article in the OP is not really meant as much for the average reader as it is for other members of the media to reassure them that the fact that we do not have draconian gun control in our nation like in Great Britain is not the fault of their "enlightened" efforts.

Of course the real problem is that many citizens have a strong distrust of the media for good reason. I feel a significant portion of that distrust is caused by the media bias on gun ownership. Americans are nowhere near as stupid as the media assumes.


September 22, 2011

Majority in U.S. Continues to Distrust the Media, Perceive Bias
More perceive liberal bias than conservative bias

by Lymari Morales

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The majority of Americans still do not have confidence in the mass media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly. The 44% of Americans who have a great deal or fair amount of trust and the 55% who have little or no trust remain among the most negative views Gallup has measured.



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Implications

Americans remain largely distrusting of the news media, with 55% saying they have little or no trust in the media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly, and 60% perceiving bias one way or the other. These views are largely steady compared with last year, even as the media landscape continues to change rapidly.

In a report released Thursday, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found record-high negativity toward the media on 9 of 12 core measures it tracks. These measures may help explain some of the underlying negativity, though Gallup does not find sharp changes in overall views of the media this year compared with last. The types of media one consumes likely play a role in one's overall perceptions, and Gallup is planning more research in this area.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/149624/majority-continue-distrust-media-perceive-bias.aspx


Views on Gun Laws Unchanged After Aurora Shooting
Released: July 30, 2012

There has been no significant change in public views on the issue of gun control and gun rights following the July 20th shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. Currently, 47% say it is more important to control gun ownership, while 46% say it is more important to protect the rights of Americans to own guns. That is virtually unchanged from a survey earlier this year in April, when 45% prioritized gun control and 49% gun rights.

Other recent major shootings also had little effect on public opinion about gun laws. There was no significant change in the balance of opinion about gun rights and gun control after the January, 2011 shooting in Tucson, Arizona in which Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was injured. Nor was there a spike in support for gun control following the shooting at Virginia Tech University in April, 2007.

Public opinion about gun control and gun rights has been divided since early 2009. Prior to that, going back to the first Pew Research Center polling on this issue in 1993, majorities consistently rated controlling gun ownership as a higher priority than protecting the rights of Americans to own guns.

The issue remains a highly partisan one: Republicans prioritize gun rights by a 71% to 26% margin, while Democrats prioritize gun control by a 72% to 21% margin. Independents are split, with 50% saying the priority should be protecting the right of Americans to own guns, while 43% say it should be controlling gun ownership.


http://www.people-press.org/2012/07/30/views-on-gun-laws-unchanged-after-aurora-shooting/





NRA: A lobby for criminals [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2012 OP
I just have violance loansstore Aug 2012 #1
By that standard Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #2
Hardly 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #3
Hardly false Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #4
Blindness by definition 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #5
Once again, for those in the cheap seats... HALO141 Aug 2012 #33
Yep Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #36
This is not all about YOU 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #37
The Assault WEAPONS (Not Rifle) ban was a joke. shadowrider Aug 2012 #42
Beat me to it. n/t HALO141 Aug 2012 #46
Suppose you got your wish and those controls. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #61
I think your crystal ball is cracked 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #69
It beats only criminals being armed. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #71
Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #72
It boggles my mind how gun grabbers consider them gejohnston Aug 2012 #73
What are Jenoch Aug 2012 #74
This guy says it better than I 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #76
it is not converting it to full auto gejohnston Aug 2012 #78
Clearly the effect is the same as a full-automatic 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #81
if it would have been a bump fire gejohnston Aug 2012 #82
Like this law-abiding gun nut? Hoyt Aug 2012 #91
"It may have been"? Jenoch Aug 2012 #85
That is not full-auto fire Jenoch Aug 2012 #79
CBS News => Holmes used "an AR-15 assault rifle... " 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #80
you both are right gejohnston Aug 2012 #83
Nope, I'm correct. Jenoch Aug 2012 #84
I was thinking in terms of gejohnston Aug 2012 #86
I realize the SKS and Jenoch Aug 2012 #89
Doesn't really matter. Fact Holmes was attracted to such guns should have been enough to have him Hoyt Aug 2012 #90
Do you really mean to say HALO141 Aug 2012 #93
I'd say that anyone ATTRACTED to "scary-looking guns" and/or lots of ammo has a problem. Hoyt Aug 2012 #94
Since I've never seen you refer to any HALO141 Aug 2012 #95
no need - you do that pretty well yourselves DrDan Aug 2012 #58
Thank you for illustrating my point. Again. n/t HALO141 Aug 2012 #66
Well the ACLU Missycim Aug 2012 #6
I was not aware of this 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #38
Don't forget neo-nazis 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #26
I love it. The Antigun freaks think the NRA is their problem aikoaiko Aug 2012 #7
"Antigun Freaks" ... ain't it the truth! OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #9
You are right, it's the gun-freaks, not the NRA that's the problem. But, Hoyt Aug 2012 #15
Yawn. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #21
Tell ya what 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #27
Closer, but the real answer is voters. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #35
The NRA must really be a ScaRY group... ileus Aug 2012 #8
Another hyperbolic screed rrneck Aug 2012 #10
"We can’t link the NRA directly to the hideous acts ..." JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2012 #11
Boy, your Drive By Google Dumps are getting more shrill and desperate DonP Aug 2012 #12
The NRA does not enable or is a lobby for criminals. Equate Aug 2012 #13
I bet Free Republic is more your speed. Hoyt Aug 2012 #16
What's Free Republic? Equate Aug 2012 #17
anyone that doesn't eat anti pieces is a RW troll. ileus Aug 2012 #18
So is that the idea? rDigital Aug 2012 #20
for the most part. ileus Aug 2012 #22
Is this true? Equate Aug 2012 #25
No true scottsman (AKA no true progressive) Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #29
It's all about frustration by gun controllers DonP Aug 2012 #30
At least one person considered it a game.. ileus Aug 2012 #34
Hoyt's kind of a box of chocolates. HALO141 Aug 2012 #67
"new" LOL! DanTex Aug 2012 #32
That is low -- even for you which isn't saying much. nt CokeMachine Aug 2012 #87
There are only 4.3 million members of the NRA ... spin Aug 2012 #14
"Ermagerd guns scares me, Immsa justs another hoplophobe!" rDigital Aug 2012 #19
A registry would actually be helpful AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #23
THey showed rDigital Aug 2012 #24
agreed samsingh Aug 2012 #28
well, that makes 2 of you NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #31
100% agree bongbong Aug 2012 #39
And you are any different how? Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #40
He's different because Union Scribe Aug 2012 #41
Not all can bongbong Aug 2012 #44
Is whining another NRA Talking Point? bongbong Aug 2012 #43
"Winning" is the word you are looking for hack89 Aug 2012 #48
Losing? bongbong Aug 2012 #49
And there you stand sputtering and impotent. hack89 Aug 2012 #50
Nuts? bongbong Aug 2012 #52
American society is the safest it has been in 50 years hack89 Aug 2012 #54
No thanks bongbong Aug 2012 #59
But no thanks to you either hack89 Aug 2012 #60
Relevant bongbong Aug 2012 #62
No - we are the voters that politicians respect and listen to hack89 Aug 2012 #63
Let them try and throw their insults around in another forum, say LGBT, and their posts would shadowrider Aug 2012 #45
Even here, he has the (2nd) highest hide percentage Union Scribe Aug 2012 #47
The Delicate Flowers bongbong Aug 2012 #51
Just went to his transparency page Equate Aug 2012 #53
It has to be tongue in cheek hack89 Aug 2012 #55
I'm refusing to answer any of his insulting comments Equate Aug 2012 #56
I've never understood why the anti's are so rude and hateful. ileus Aug 2012 #57
They remind me of anti-choice activists hack89 Aug 2012 #64
Truth. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #70
Again - Jon Stewart delivers a smackdown to these nonsensical rants against the NRA: Simo 1939_1940 Aug 2012 #65
Wait. I thought they were the lobby of gun manufacturers, period. NewMoonTherian Aug 2012 #68
It was the very same poster, just the day before. Sure can't keep their stories straight, can they? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #77
Another assinine opinion piece you've posted with no commentary on your part rl6214 Aug 2012 #75
Hit and run. He/She's just chumming the waters for entertainment. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #88
Anti-Gun Freaks: Want to eliminate civil liberty because criminals exploit that liberty. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #92
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