Gun Control & RKBA

DanTex

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77. Not all gunowners. Just you and the other crazies.

Reply to Tejas (Reply #72)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:58 AM

Jul 2012

What kind of person responds to a killing like this by saying "good shot"? Only a gun-crazed extremist.

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UPDATE: Texas EZ Trip Shooting Of Drunk [View all] GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 OP

Kung Fu classes might be cheaper DocMac Jul 2012 #1

Have you compared prices? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #3

No. But it's good excercise too. nt DocMac Jul 2012 #7

I see you have one of those famous goalposts with wheels. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #190

A silly reply deserves a silly response. DocMac Jul 2012 #192

She had it coming, it was only "simple assault" anyway! Tejas Jul 2012 #199

I have to kill anyone that assaults me! DocMac Jul 2012 #201

Or your loved ones. Tejas Jul 2012 #240

Simple assault ends when the first blow rains down on someone. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #202

Do what you want! DocMac Jul 2012 #206

I don't carry a gun. Never have. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #211

How bout this: DocMac Jul 2012 #218

No surprise that you would turn to outright lying to support your anti-gun agenda... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #220

Lying??? DocMac Jul 2012 #225

Yes, lying. Walking away IS defusing the situation. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #226

People walk away every day. DocMac Jul 2012 #228

And this: Oneka Jul 2012 #232

Well, if I follow your logic, DocMac Jul 2012 #234

Stand your ground laws Oneka Jul 2012 #243

As a jury member, at the end of the day... HALO141 Jul 2012 #304

based on what evidence? gejohnston Jul 2012 #222

Take off your shoe? You have obviously never dealt with real street violence. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #237

I'm addding that one to the beans, staff, bicycle tire and benjamins. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #241

Don't forget; "Firm voice commands to stop and firmer if needed" N/T DonP Jul 2012 #244

Dont forget the "firm voice". N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #306

You are a great example of why SYG laws are needed. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #300

I think this guy needs a psychiatrist more than anything else. DanTex Jul 2012 #5

You'll get no argument from me on that. nt DocMac Jul 2012 #8

There were TWO parties, what about the POS that chased him? Tejas Jul 2012 #9

Anyone who thinks that a drunk can't seriously injure of kill someone permatex Jul 2012 #10

ibtBDSM's Tejas Jul 2012 #14

Ain't it something? permatex Jul 2012 #18

"If he didn't have a gun............." Tejas Jul 2012 #23

Oh, but of course. permatex Jul 2012 #24

I'd rather see someone who is able handle these things without a gun. Just because you choose Hoyt Jul 2012 #152

A drunk who can be handled without killing them. Gee Hoyt, I didn't know you shadowrider Jul 2012 #155

Were you there? No. You just assume some guy with a gun is honest when he says "I was afraid." Hoyt Jul 2012 #156

You're putting words in my mouth. Nowhere on this thread have I opined on this shadowrider Jul 2012 #159

"I wasn't there, it's why I'll leave it up to the cops to decide." Wise words your interlocutor... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #177

"If, after the investigation the shooter is arrested, there must be cause." HALO141 Jul 2012 #279

What color is the sky in your world?!? HALO141 Jul 2012 #277

I once asked him what color the sky was, as usual, no answer shadowrider Jul 2012 #282

No surprise there. HALO141 Jul 2012 #293

If the shooter tried to retreat, and it appears he did. Good on him......... wandy Jul 2012 #161

Your honest opinion without throwing insults is truly appreciated. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #162

I had no intent to insult...... wandy Jul 2012 #164

You may have misunderstood. Peruse this thread to see insults thrown shadowrider Jul 2012 #166

continued beating is merely a rowdy drunk to you? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #17

rowdy drunk my ass gejohnston Jul 2012 #25

Yes, rowdy drunk, trying to pick fights. DanTex Jul 2012 #44

Crickets. DocMac Jul 2012 #47

After your statement of conceal carriers permatex Jul 2012 #48

You don't have to be Republican, you don't have to Tejas Jul 2012 #56

Gun ownership has nothing to do with it. DanTex Jul 2012 #59

You're not a noob so you know accusations of masturbation over guns Tejas Jul 2012 #72

Not all gunowners. Just you and the other crazies. DanTex Jul 2012 #77

This might be news to you, but Tejas Jul 2012 #80

Apparently, accusations of mental illness are acceptable now... PavePusher Jul 2012 #292

Amazing, idin't it? shadowrider Jul 2012 #296

I just like to occasionaly confirm that the limits here are different than the limits elsewhere.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #302

I rather suspect the post would have been yanked... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #303

YES, the JURY SYSTEM HERE IS BROKEN. Tejas Jul 2012 #308

So, I'm one of the "crazies"? Tejas Jul 2012 #307

I'm finding that out permatex Jul 2012 #63

You should just put me on ignore. DanTex Jul 2012 #67

Naw permatex Jul 2012 #73

Lacking logical dialogue, I predict the personal attacks will start in Tejas Jul 2012 #74

I feel so.......... permatex Jul 2012 #81

grasping for straws already? Tejas Jul 2012 #52

LOL. Lust for bloodshed? From a guy who is celebrating this execution? DanTex Jul 2012 #55

Your solution only allows arresting the drunk after he injures innocents. Tejas Jul 2012 #66

Actually, what the progressives in this thread are saying is that... DanTex Jul 2012 #70

By your logic, LEO's are executing people in the streets. Tejas Jul 2012 #75

Hey Karnak Oneka Jul 2012 #230

You are defending the drunk guy. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #106

In the other thread, I pointed out that the referenced article was lying about that. PavePusher Jul 2012 #53

And you were wrong, like usual. DanTex Jul 2012 #61

No. I wasn't. PavePusher Jul 2012 #76

Yes. You were. DanTex Jul 2012 #83

I'm having fun permatex Jul 2012 #86

So am I! Yay us! DanTex Jul 2012 #93

Yep permatex Jul 2012 #99

You are wrong. Here, I'll lay it out for you again.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #104

Here: DanTex Jul 2012 #105

Which is not at all equal to the other statement, which was a pure invention. n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #110

LOL. So you really can't read after all! DanTex Jul 2012 #115

I can read just fine. You are promoting lies and distortions. PavePusher Jul 2012 #129

Anyone claiming any sort of "academic credentials" HALO141 Jul 2012 #278

your reading skills suck gejohnston Jul 2012 #71

They won't be happy until Tejas Jul 2012 #78

Witnesses: DanTex Jul 2012 #89

and this witness is? gejohnston Jul 2012 #94

LOL. You guys are so desperate to vindicate the gun hero. DanTex Jul 2012 #101

Better than convicting solely because he CCW's. Tejas Jul 2012 #107

no, just seeing your bullshit for what it is gejohnston Jul 2012 #116

"William Powell" wasn't the one getting his head stomped. Tejas Jul 2012 #95

That's right. Attack that witness! Maybe he's an evil gun-grabber! DanTex Jul 2012 #102

My bad, you're right, guilty until proven innocent is much easier. Tejas Jul 2012 #112

So, have you abandoned your defense of the lie in the jpak cite? PavePusher Jul 2012 #265

yeah and sometimes drunk men beat their wives arely staircase Jul 2012 #96

The guy did leave - just like the first guy hack89 Jul 2012 #194

He wasn't trying to pick a fight, he WAS fighting. He WAS assaulting someone. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #301

Not a rowdy drunk that was singing loudly out of tune or pissing on mailboxes 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #36

When I was a rowdy drunk... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #49

How many assaults did you commit? bluedigger Jul 2012 #92

I don't know. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #120

i knew a woman who killed her "rowdy dunk" husband arely staircase Jul 2012 #88

when I was a kid gejohnston Jul 2012 #204

Offering $100 not to beat you to death is even cheaper. Tejas Jul 2012 #12

+100000000 permatex Jul 2012 #15

I'll ask again. DocMac Jul 2012 #26

Good Question: Why a hand gun, why not pepper spray?? DanTex Jul 2012 #28

Now I know that your just another typical permatex Jul 2012 #31

When you insult someone, you should really try to get your grammar right. DanTex Jul 2012 #62

I rest my case. nt permatex Jul 2012 #64

YUP, ask LEO's about pepper spray vs drugged-up perps. Tejas Jul 2012 #35

because that is what he had gejohnston Jul 2012 #37

They should carry both if anything. DocMac Jul 2012 #41

I agree permatex Jul 2012 #42

I believe you are a good person. DocMac Jul 2012 #50

Thank you permatex Jul 2012 #58

I don't support the bloodthirsty bragging language. DocMac Jul 2012 #69

I agree, but neither of us were there permatex Jul 2012 #79

I don't have any answers, permatex. DocMac Jul 2012 #97

Now here's where you lose the argument permatex Jul 2012 #103

He stood his ground at some point. DocMac Jul 2012 #109

He may very well have been still trying to get away but was unable to at that time permatex Jul 2012 #113

We'll see. HALO141 Jul 2012 #310

When he takes it before a Grand Jury, as required by Texas law, oneshooter Jul 2012 #311

When he does he will almost certainly recommend charges. HALO141 Jul 2012 #312

Why should lawful persons EVER be required to retreat in the face of criminal action? PavePusher Jul 2012 #127

correction gejohnston Jul 2012 #119

I stand corrected permatex Jul 2012 #126

Wow. Just... wow. PavePusher Jul 2012 #117

I'm having a Beavis moment. Tejas Jul 2012 #125

Republicans build prisons with glee. DocMac Jul 2012 #145

Jack Brooks built ours. Tejas Jul 2012 #147

Why would a reasonable person listen to anything you have to say... Marengo Jul 2012 #297

Onset of sudden attack is a legal qualifer for self-defense. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #133

I guess this will last forever, since you don't get it. DocMac Jul 2012 #209

Congratulations, you won the Valarie Hodges award gejohnston Jul 2012 #207

Forget the dumbass remarks! DocMac Jul 2012 #210

That would be just about all of your posts... ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #213

Ok. DocMac Jul 2012 #219

the dead person brought it on himself gejohnston Jul 2012 #223

If you are referring to the events in my life, I am satisfied with the results ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #224

Good for you. Try to keep up! DocMac Jul 2012 #227

Complex issues deserve more than sound bite answers ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #236

Can you, with 100% accuracy, and a guarantee of compensation for failure.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #246

based on the information, gejohnston Jul 2012 #216

A person used force to end a violent, potentially lethal attack on themself. PavePusher Jul 2012 #245

Oh, forgot to ask...Do you include yourself in this analysis? Marengo Jul 2012 #299

No it wouldn't. Clames Jul 2012 #68

Texas does. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #114

The drunk has all the options. PavePusher Jul 2012 #60

Use a firm voice Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #29

And if that doesn't work, show him/her you're armed with a can of beans shadowrider Jul 2012 #82

What part of "use $100 bills instead of a gun" do you not comprehend? Tejas Jul 2012 #32

Do you know how ridiculus those answers are? Very! DocMac Jul 2012 #45

About as ridiculous as Tejas Jul 2012 #84

He'll get a chance to test his fighting skills DocMac Jul 2012 #150

People die or are seriously injured by getting punched hack89 Jul 2012 #198

A single punch can end a life... Marengo Jul 2012 #298

You do know that the great majority of gunshot wounds do not result in death, yes? PavePusher Jul 2012 #57

It's called problem solving, Texas style. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #146

you did not read the article gejohnston Jul 2012 #148

I read the article and other articles. I'll go with the witnesses. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #151

I read it, and I read the original article. gejohnston Jul 2012 #157

WTF does retreating to the parking lot have to do with anything? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #170

he could not escape with out being more exposed gejohnston Jul 2012 #180

And you know that because... DanTex Jul 2012 #182

and you know he could leave the scene because gejohnston Jul 2012 #184

YUP, witnesses do disagree, just ask Sharpton or Nifong or...oh wait. Tejas Jul 2012 #193

Uh, because it was stated in the article that he retreated? Tejas Jul 2012 #195

I don't care what the eyewitnesses said, or didn't say. MicaelS Jul 2012 #196

And you know that how? Clames Jul 2012 #231

How do you know he had a car? Sirveri Jul 2012 #233

The witness statement, "...not worth a life..." is his judgement and would not be allowed in court. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #238

You can see the flak i'm getting. DocMac Jul 2012 #149

Aren't stun-guns lethal weapons? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #153

I'm told they are "less lethal." DocMac Jul 2012 #165

Ah, so *you are a big guy* 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #168

Now you're writing all my thoughts for me? DocMac Jul 2012 #173

I used what you wrote 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #175

I will acknowledge that. DocMac Jul 2012 #178

Alright, fair enough 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #179

I get what you are saying. DocMac Jul 2012 #181

I don't think we're really in disagreement here 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #185

No need to apologize. DocMac Jul 2012 #186

You seem to have written plenty of thoughts for others. PavePusher Jul 2012 #263

I don't have your options. At 58 with health problems, the last thing I'm going to shadowrider Jul 2012 #169

Yell for help. I would help. DocMac Jul 2012 #174

Good to know. I'll let you know my daily schedule and you can always shadowrider Jul 2012 #187

Silly replies are not helping you. DocMac Jul 2012 #188

I have very limited faith in my fellow man. No one wants to get involved shadowrider Jul 2012 #189

I'm sorry you feel that way. DocMac Jul 2012 #191

If you try your method of self-defense in a real street fight you will get your ass whipped... GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #239

Yelling for help doesn't always work either... PavePusher Jul 2012 #264

You could use Diamond Daves patented NINJA CHOP! Tejas Jul 2012 #200

It is sad, but you have to develop a thick skin around here. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #254

Have to honestly disagree gejohnston Jul 2012 #256

I wasn't referring specifically to this thread. And I don't have a side. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #271

Loud minority? Clames Jul 2012 #257

Loud minority of DUers, not Gungeoneers. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #270

how many of those DUers actually understand what SYG is? gejohnston Jul 2012 #273

Well, this is a subject where you and I have opposing takes on SYG. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #274

not clear at all gejohnston Jul 2012 #275

I don't give a rat's ass about ALEC's well being, or the NRA's, or any other right wing org. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #281

they basically are. gejohnston Jul 2012 #283

I didn't see where this was about robbery at all. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #284

I can think of worse feelings gejohnston Jul 2012 #285

That is very good advice. DocMac Jul 2012 #272

"Are you suggesting that all citizens carry...?" No-one is suggesting any such thing, of course. PavePusher Jul 2012 #266

Showing a belligerent individual who isn't thinking clearly that you have lot's of cash on hand 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #39

Lion vs CCW wrapped in bacon. Tejas Jul 2012 #43

Nah... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #122

Unlikely...and in any case probably far less effective. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #98

Well, if you can't use your hands, DocMac Jul 2012 #118

I know. Every parking lot I go to is chock full of rocks and sticks. n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #123

perhaps for a couple of reasons gejohnston Jul 2012 #128

I actually DO consider non-lethals a viable option. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #139

from what I gather gejohnston Jul 2012 #2

What would the victim do if DocMac Jul 2012 #4

Run faster. Tejas Jul 2012 #6

That's one. DocMac Jul 2012 #11

I'm 64 yo permatex Jul 2012 #13

Pepper spray. nt DocMac Jul 2012 #27

Pepper spray doesn't always work permatex Jul 2012 #30

Will you agree to carry both? DocMac Jul 2012 #33

I already carry a small container of pepper spray permatex Jul 2012 #38

Victim gettin his a*s whipped (conversation) shadowrider Jul 2012 #85

On TV, the wind always blows in the right direction. Tejas Jul 2012 #87

Is that part of your comedy routine? nt DocMac Jul 2012 #100

Better than the foolish fantasies. Tejas Jul 2012 #111

Will you never give any ground on this issue? DocMac Jul 2012 #140

Won't you? shadowrider Jul 2012 #141

Maybe it's because I don't watch television so Tejas Jul 2012 #142

You forgot to tell him to have plenty of Benjamins to hand out in case shadowrider Jul 2012 #143

Throw a few on the ground and make like Forrest Gump! Tejas Jul 2012 #144

Lol! Now that isn't a bad option. DocMac Jul 2012 #158

Not to be a PITA sarisataka Jul 2012 #163

Probably. But if a gun is all you have, DocMac Jul 2012 #167

True if your only tool is a hammer sarisataka Jul 2012 #172

If a guy jumps in front of you with a knife, DocMac Jul 2012 #176

Effective your view of what is appropriate is very dependent on the victim ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #212

"...a fist fight doesn't deserve deadly force." PavePusher Jul 2012 #248

"But if a gun is all you have, lethal force is all you have." PavePusher Jul 2012 #247

depending on size an muscular strength gejohnston Jul 2012 #16

I'm sorry GE permatex Jul 2012 #19

I think some here actually want a CCP to get his skull cracked open Tejas Jul 2012 #21

That's my take on it also permatex Jul 2012 #22

You're relatively new to this forum but I must admit shadowrider Jul 2012 #90

It isn't our (CCWers) fault if you choose to limit your options. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #136

Good shoot Tejas Jul 2012 #20

And yet, somehow, the first attacked customer survived his or her brutal beating... enki23 Jul 2012 #34

"excessively gun-loving sorts" - Diane, is that you? Tejas Jul 2012 #40

did you read the article? gejohnston Jul 2012 #46

I can't possibly take anyone seriously when they write something like what you did. enki23 Jul 2012 #217

the fact remains gejohnston Jul 2012 #221

1. What evidence do you have that the attacks were of the same level and ferocity? PavePusher Jul 2012 #65

Screw this topic. dtom67 Jul 2012 #51

as long as Threads like this one: Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #54

So you don't think that gun control or abortion rights are worth fighting for? DanTex Jul 2012 #108

WTF? Are you that ignorant? RW masturbates to gun control. Tejas Jul 2012 #121

After reading his posts on this thread, you actually thought that? n/t shadowrider Jul 2012 #124

I was trying to give the poster SOME benefit of the doubt. Tejas Jul 2012 #131

I think he's losing it permatex Jul 2012 #132

Apparently he's never heard of Ronald Reagan. Tejas Jul 2012 #135

LOL. Yes, gun control is so very popular with right-wingers! DanTex Jul 2012 #130

Ronald Reagan>Mulford Act (FYI - Reagan was RW) Tejas Jul 2012 #134

Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, in 2012... DanTex Jul 2012 #137

The NRA that endorses Democratic candidates? Tejas Jul 2012 #138

Then, why is NRA out to defeat Obama? Hoyt Jul 2012 #154

Why do you let the NRA scare you so much? Tejas Jul 2012 #197

Gun control? Of course not ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #214

Maybe a law against public intoxication would prevent........ Tejas Jul 2012 #91

And a law against punching people, while we're at it. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #160

This is why SYG is spreading sarisataka Jul 2012 #171

YUP, violent drunks need to take notice. Tejas Jul 2012 #203

This thread needs some Canadian love. ileus Jul 2012 #183

She just LOVES Texas law (Hale v Tavai) Tejas Jul 2012 #205

*snork* ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #242

When I was a young man Meiko Jul 2012 #208

When I was younger I followed much the same course ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #215

Maybe I Could Dance With Them Until They Drop AndyTiedye Jul 2012 #309

"the attacker made a bad life decision and will suffer the consequences of his actions." geckosfeet Jul 2012 #251

I understand that Meiko Jul 2012 #261

self defense backwoodsbob Jul 2012 #229

Yep Meiko Jul 2012 #235

Hey, that's a point that was overlooked all through this thread.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #249

At least 5 or 6 Meiko Jul 2012 #250

I would have had the clerk call a cop. orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #252

That makes sense Meiko Jul 2012 #253

Yes ,that would be the sane way to curb violence. orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #259

And the guy gets to beat on you for five minutes until the cops get there. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #255

I don't that's why I'd have him Legally orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #258

and if the beating victim dies or requires a long stay in the hospital, gejohnston Jul 2012 #260

No shoot anyone for anything orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #286

Wow! Meiko Jul 2012 #262

Is there anyway of defending your-self and my raped wife orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #287

You didn't answer my question but that's OK Meiko Jul 2012 #294

As long as that is YOUR choice, MicaelS Jul 2012 #267

Not at all ,My opinion ,or you choice orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #288

That's your choice. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #268

Would never presume to mke that choice for orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #289

Not me. I will defend myself. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #305

Please Mr. Drunk Asshole, Spoonman Jul 2012 #269

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #290

Shares? Is that you? We missed you, man! n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #291

Naah, that gem was sub-Shares... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #295

If there was no stand your ground law what would have happened? Does having a gun present upaloopa Jul 2012 #276

Real Life(tm) is not that binary. PavePusher Jul 2012 #280