Gun Control & RKBA

ileus

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38. Now we see their plan.

Sun Jun 24, 2012, 10:35 AM

Jun 2012

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47934760/ns/us_news-christian_science_monitor/#.T-ci2KFq23E

First it was SYG now it's now this....both cases built on lies they know people won't bother to learn the truth about.

SYG aren't shoot first laws.
Denying the government the ability to ban gun use in emergencies isn't about target shooting when it hasn't rained.

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Too many wildfires caused by gun owners, says Utah governor [View all] Eugene Jun 2012 OP

Hmmmmm...that is an interesting problem. ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #1

The 2nd Amendment guarantees a right to start wildfires! We need a Supreme Court ruling villager Jun 2012 #2

Copper and lead does not spark on rock krispos42 Jun 2012 #3

Could hot brass falling into dry grass do it? Or the flash from the gun itself? petronius Jun 2012 #6

I could see if it was black powder krispos42 Jun 2012 #39

Yup, my nephew burned off a couple acres of our pasture with a muzzleloader shotgun tularetom Jul 2012 #80

I have to agree, this is BS! Yavapai Jun 2012 #18

How about steel-cored bullets? Euromutt Jul 2012 #72

Hmmm.... I thought steel-core was illegal? krispos42 Jul 2012 #75

Armor-piercing handgun ammunition is illegal Euromutt Jul 2012 #82

I did not know that. Thanks! n/t krispos42 Jul 2012 #83

You can't start a fire in the wild with a gunshot thelordofhell Jun 2012 #4

Depends..... S_B_Jackson Jun 2012 #36

Source: Christian Science Monitor ?! Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #5

......... Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #13

I am skeptical, is all -- Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #14

Do you read the CSM on a regular basis? Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #35

I used to read it and I agree with you - but - this piece is kind of a Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #37

I think we need MythBusters to jump in on this one. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #7

Only if they are using tracers to hunt with. I have never seen that done. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #8

I agree sarisataka Jun 2012 #11

These are shooters, not necessarily hunters, so they may have tracers, right? Lionessa Jul 2012 #77

so, what is your problem with westerners? gejohnston Jul 2012 #78

Huh? I think you've misunderstood. Lionessa Jul 2012 #79

Get rid of the Forrest's! Cut down all those fucking trees! Turbineguy Jun 2012 #9

maybe they're shooting gallons of petrol instead of targets. ileus Jun 2012 #10

French Foreign Legion strikes again? gejohnston Jun 2012 #12

Bullshit rl6214 Jun 2012 #15

Millions of hunters take to the woods in the fall without incidents of forest fires... ileus Jun 2012 #16

We all know it is only heavy metal drummers that spontaneously combust DBoon Jun 2012 #20

Hunters and shooters aren't necessarily the same thing, not is it always sport Euromutt Jul 2012 #73

I call BS. Dr_Scholl Jun 2012 #17

If there's a credible link, there's a good argument for temp. restrictions Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #19

I have seen black powder guns start grass fires. ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #21

Galuchie Gulch Fire West of Loveland Was Started by a Gunshot struggle4progress Jun 2012 #22

Specialized ammo and gasoline? ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #24

A video to prove how easily? AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #34

Sounds a lot like this: PavePusher Jun 2012 #51

Fire sparked by gunshot evacuates Utah homes struggle4progress Jun 2012 #23

Except that lead and copper do not spark on rocks. ManiacJoe Jun 2012 #25

Not so sure gejohnston Jun 2012 #26

Ever consider steel jacked Mill-Spec ammo? oneshooter Jun 2012 #28

actually no, all of the mil spec ammo I have seen is gejohnston Jun 2012 #31

It's steel core. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #33

A lot of Mil Spec ammo is steel jacketed. oneshooter Jun 2012 #42

More info: PavePusher Jun 2012 #54

Maybe the shooters were smoking? Remmah2 Jun 2012 #30

Yeah, well ... Straw Man Jun 2012 #27

I wonder what percent of wildfires are caused by firearms? Remmah2 Jun 2012 #29

I can hit the head of a stick match from 100 yards. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #32

Now we see their plan. ileus Jun 2012 #38

there is a rumor going around my neighborhood (rural) Kali Jun 2012 #40

Keep this in mind on military qualification ranges. Clames Jun 2012 #41

A spark could start a fire. Although about as likely as you needing a gun in public. Hoyt Jun 2012 #44

Hey, let's try an experiment! Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #45

Carrying a lethal weapon in civilized society is not comparable to liking grapefruits, liver, etc. Hoyt Jun 2012 #46

The experiment didn't fail, the results were just disappointing Glaug-Eldare Jun 2012 #47

Second amendment obstructionist are kind of like bananas. Remmah2 Jun 2012 #59

Can you send a map and timetable please? Remmah2 Jun 2012 #57

A spark causes a fire? Clames Jun 2012 #52

Guns present a lot negatives. You won't hear it here much. Hoyt Jun 2012 #43

You can't have democracy without them. Remmah2 Jun 2012 #48

Leave em at home until the revolution comes. n/t Hoyt Jun 2012 #55

Are you hoping for a revolution? Remmah2 Jun 2012 #58

Nope, but if that is one of your rationales for arming up -- you can leave em at home for awhile. Hoyt Jun 2012 #61

you need to quit saying that. seriously. it is not cute nor funny. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #63

Sorry, some here like to talk about the importance of accumulating guns to balance state power Hoyt Jun 2012 #64

then you need to address the ones that make those statements and not just toss out Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #65

I did address a poster who alluded to that. And it is used to promote guns. Hoyt Jun 2012 #66

bwahahahahaha! oh Hoyt. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #67

Try - guns are nessecary for democracy. That's their mantra. Hoyt Jun 2012 #68

sounds like you are the one that needs to alert. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #69

What if it isn't? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #76

Guns preVent a lot negatives. Tejas Jun 2012 #49

Not enough. Hoyt Jun 2012 #56

I agree, more guns would prevent even more negatives. Tejas Jun 2012 #60

Of course, most folks realize more guns haven't reduced crime. Heck, crime might be so much lower Hoyt Jun 2012 #62

So, less guns would create more employment? Tejas Jun 2012 #70

Logic bongbong Jul 2012 #81

We will if you're on here commenting rl6214 Jul 2012 #71

Every right has negatives associated with it 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #74

The same Republican that signed the 3-day waiting period on abortion. Tejas Jun 2012 #50

The govenor Meiko Jun 2012 #53