Gun Control & RKBA

Logical

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109. Ineffective is no gun zones! Read about them! You sound like the one....

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

Jun 2012

Who thinks that the solution to criminals having guns is to tell them "do not posses guns"! LOL!
name one gun law that has made a major impact! We will all be waiting. This conversation with you is really entertaining. I love the long posts with nothing practical

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Wow, Wow, Wow.....No Gun Zones, Gun Registration, Background Checks and now Micro-stamping again! [View all] Logical Jun 2012 OP

B-b-b-b-b-butttttt...... PavePusher Jun 2012 #1

I am ready for some real answers. There has to be someone with a real plan! Logical Jun 2012 #3

I'm sure there is. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #73

The Plan? = "Trickle Down Gun Control" DonP Jun 2012 #79

The plan... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #81

Well, to be fair, rrneck Jun 2012 #2

Once these fail....what is the next step. ileus Jun 2012 #4

Yep, the answer is more guns everywhere for everyone.... rfranklin Jun 2012 #5

And where exactly (links) rl6214 Jun 2012 #11

If you can't see the policies that the NRA is fighting for you need to go to summer school... rfranklin Jun 2012 #70

I asked for links you gave us nada rl6214 Jun 2012 #82

Here you go Mr. Nada... rfranklin Jun 2012 #84

Nice try but not even close to rl6214 Jun 2012 #86

Mr. Nada... rfranklin Jun 2012 #88

I asked for someone to post a link with the following words rl6214 Jun 2012 #89

The sum of their actions proves the statement... rfranklin Jun 2012 #90

So they didn't ever really say that - you just naturally extrapolated it on your own. DonP Jun 2012 #91

Hilarious!!!! bongbong Jun 2012 #92

That's two! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #93

Happy to give you some small amount of joy - you obviously need it. DonP Jun 2012 #94

Every post bongbong Jun 2012 #96

So you don't mind that gun control is off the political radar, that's great ... and very big of you. DonP Jun 2012 #97

WSOW bongbong Jun 2012 #98

Does that "we" include Wayne LaPierre as well? rfranklin Jun 2012 #99

No, but I used to spend a lot of time sitting at a desk in a Ward office in Chicago ... DonP Jun 2012 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author rfranklin Jun 2012 #101

You're dealing with a Colonist- evidence is optional with them: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #105

The "sum" of what "actions"? PavePusher Jun 2012 #95

So your argument is "criminals ignore laws"? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #6

It's "argument" #554 bongbong Jun 2012 #10

Logical DOES NOT LIKE the NRA so rl6214 Jun 2012 #13

Well, that may be, but his argument IS that criminals break the law Scootaloo Jun 2012 #21

The point is that these stupid laws do NOTHING to make people safer! Nothing! Except make people.... Logical Jun 2012 #103

A guy named "Logical" shouldn't froth so much Scootaloo Jun 2012 #104

So having ineffective laws works for you? Not for me! N-t Logical Jun 2012 #107

In my experience... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #108

Ineffective is no gun zones! Read about them! You sound like the one.... Logical Jun 2012 #109

LOL bongbong Jun 2012 #32

Well, technically speaking, the fewer laws, the lower the crime rate, right? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #15

Yes bongbong Jun 2012 #33

I haven't met a religion that WASN'T strange, so I won't just single out the shamans of shootin' Scootaloo Jun 2012 #59

That's because it only exists in your mind rl6214 Jun 2012 #83

LOL bongbong Jun 2012 #85

And another foolish post from the bong section rl6214 Jun 2012 #87

Looks like bongbong's alert on you was not successful: petronius Jun 2012 #102

Dosen't suprise me one bit rl6214 Jun 2012 #106

Dont ask me ask the NRA, they are the ones who want to put a gun in hands,, benld74 Jun 2012 #7

"Your right to drink stops the second someone drives drunk!" TheWraith Jun 2012 #8

I have no moral panic and I was providing my opinion, benld74 Jun 2012 #14

"Your right to financial derivatives stops when you cause the economy to collapse!" DanTex Jun 2012 #18

Probably more than that if you count the SYG by common law states like gejohnston Jun 2012 #9

Fun fact... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #17

I understand that, but gejohnston Jun 2012 #20

yes, yes in fact it does Scootaloo Jun 2012 #28

No, You don't actually understand how the laws work. gejohnston Jun 2012 #34

So then the laws was unnecessary, since it's "just the same"? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #48

they are more just changes gejohnston Jun 2012 #55

Holy shit, you're presenting arguments! Scootaloo Jun 2012 #63

you don't bother to read provided links do you? gejohnston Jun 2012 #74

"BUT your right to own guns stops the second an innocent person gets shot, killed, or worse." Clames Jun 2012 #22

Zimmerman may be standing behind "Stand Your Ground" ... spin Jun 2012 #47

Can you tell me... Scootaloo Jun 2012 #50

You'll probably get an answer... Clames Jun 2012 #57

What do you think Logical means by this, then? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #58

He's advocating for... PavePusher Jun 2012 #61

Freedom of choice? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #64

No, I put it in the message body so I could use the html italics tags for emphasis. PavePusher Jun 2012 #65

I'm not the one pulling "freedom of choice" out of my ass here, chief Scootaloo Jun 2012 #67

How many criminals does one need to enounter before one should be armed? mvccd1000 Jun 2012 #69

One encounter with a violent street criminal is enough to die from. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #71

I'm not pulling anything out of my ass. PavePusher Jun 2012 #80

This. Clames Jun 2012 #76

The fact remains that there is still violence in our society ... spin Jun 2012 #75

Naw... If I had nothing to do with the injury/death of the innocent person... PavePusher Jun 2012 #60

Why does MY right to own a weapon for self defense end "the second an innocent person gets shot"? Common Sense Party Jun 2012 #68

You say "Background checks do not prevent criminals from getting guns!" safeinOhio Jun 2012 #12

how well does it work in Canada? gejohnston Jun 2012 #16

DOESN'T COUNT! DOESN'T COUNT! DOESN'T COUNT! Scootaloo Jun 2012 #19

why not? gejohnston Jun 2012 #23

Here, let me show you. Scootaloo Jun 2012 #30

the FBI was not talking about registration gejohnston Jun 2012 #38

I was talking about background checks in that post about safeinOhio Jun 2012 #43

I did? gejohnston Jun 2012 #46

Sorry, I was talking about the original poster. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #52

Fair enough, my mix-up on that Scootaloo Jun 2012 #44

Good idea, lets compare safeinOhio Jun 2012 #24

like I told DanTex gejohnston Jun 2012 #31

Your link is dated 3/5/2000. Bill Clinton was POTUS at that time. spin Jun 2012 #78

I'm sorry, I should have said, safeinOhio Jun 2012 #25

Actually, it works great in Canada. Just look at their homicide rate compared to ours. DanTex Jun 2012 #27

It actually has little to nothing to do with thier homicide rate gejohnston Jun 2012 #29

Of course it does. This is criminology 101. DanTex Jun 2012 #35

you proved my point gejohnston Jun 2012 #41

Could you better explain safeinOhio Jun 2012 #45

I was using these definitions gejohnston Jun 2012 #51

OK lets compare handgun crime safeinOhio Jun 2012 #36

OK compare Thunder Bay with gejohnston Jun 2012 #42

This has been discussed before. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #53

What evidence do you have El Paso has a lot of immigrants? gejohnston Jun 2012 #56

Did their homocide rate drop after they started registration? PavePusher Jun 2012 #62

Registration does absolutely nothing. Clames Jun 2012 #26

WOW bongbong Jun 2012 #37

Once again... Clames Jun 2012 #39

2% denial rate? Logical Jun 2012 #40

I would disagree with you. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #49

"To address issues of increasing VIOLENT CRIME in the country, the NRA called for more prisons, AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #54

Mostly the fact that violent crime is on a steady decrease Scootaloo Jun 2012 #66

It's all they've got. jeepnstein Jun 2012 #72

OK children, guns are bad mKay n/t Spoonman Jun 2012 #77