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In reply to the discussion: Seattle Officials Aim for Gun-Law Changes [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)18. Doesn't seem to be working in Australia
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-24/customs-admits-illegal-gun-import-x-ray-blunder/4031190
Well, lets just declare an amnesty, and the guns will be turned in. They tried it a couple of years ago:
http://www.thecourier.com.au/blogs/the-rant/gun-amnesty-bit-of-a-misfire/1649124.aspx
Surprise, surprise. The commenter above was right: the criminals ignored it. From Wednesday:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-13/guns-john-rau-laws/4068264?section=sa
Looks like SA is making these shootings double-super illegal. That's sure to stop them!
Customs admits illegal gun import X-ray blunder
Posted May 24, 2012 14:08:16
Customs officials have revealed that their X-ray machines did not pick up more than 100 pistols that were illegally imported through a Sydney post office.
Police arrested four people in March over the Glock pistols that were allegedly posted from Germany to the Sylvania Waters Post Office.
Representatives from the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service were questioned about the case during a federal Estimates hearing in Canberra this morning.
At the time police said they had seized more than 200 handguns, but today's Estimates hearing was told about 122 pistols, triggers and magazines were sent by airmail.
Posted May 24, 2012 14:08:16
Customs officials have revealed that their X-ray machines did not pick up more than 100 pistols that were illegally imported through a Sydney post office.
Police arrested four people in March over the Glock pistols that were allegedly posted from Germany to the Sylvania Waters Post Office.
Representatives from the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service were questioned about the case during a federal Estimates hearing in Canberra this morning.
At the time police said they had seized more than 200 handguns, but today's Estimates hearing was told about 122 pistols, triggers and magazines were sent by airmail.
Well, lets just declare an amnesty, and the guns will be turned in. They tried it a couple of years ago:
http://www.thecourier.com.au/blogs/the-rant/gun-amnesty-bit-of-a-misfire/1649124.aspx
Gun amnesty bit of a misfire
ANOTHER year, another gun amnesty. And yet another photo op involving an earnest police officer looking serious and concerned in front of a pile of firearms.
It looks such an important and effective exercise in community policing. Lets get all these nasty (cue scary music) guns off the street.
Except, if I may borrow a phrase from the English lass at work, its bollocks.
The amnesty and previous gun buy-back schemes are, for all practical purposes, public relations exercises. The effect on violent crime rates would be negligible because the sort of person who might hand in an old rifle at the cop shop is not exactly the type of person of interest associated with violent crime.
That sad collection of museum pieces and rusty old .22s pictured in The Courier last week, looked sinister enough but hardly constituted a menace to society. You see, criminals will always find ways to get illegal firearms or explosives or whatever, when they want to.
ANOTHER year, another gun amnesty. And yet another photo op involving an earnest police officer looking serious and concerned in front of a pile of firearms.
It looks such an important and effective exercise in community policing. Lets get all these nasty (cue scary music) guns off the street.
Except, if I may borrow a phrase from the English lass at work, its bollocks.
The amnesty and previous gun buy-back schemes are, for all practical purposes, public relations exercises. The effect on violent crime rates would be negligible because the sort of person who might hand in an old rifle at the cop shop is not exactly the type of person of interest associated with violent crime.
That sad collection of museum pieces and rusty old .22s pictured in The Courier last week, looked sinister enough but hardly constituted a menace to society. You see, criminals will always find ways to get illegal firearms or explosives or whatever, when they want to.
Surprise, surprise. The commenter above was right: the criminals ignored it. From Wednesday:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-13/guns-john-rau-laws/4068264?section=sa
Gun amnesty alongside tougher SA laws
Legislation allowing for the jailing of people who illegally discharge guns has been introduced in the South Australian Parliament.
It is a response to cases including recent drive-by shootings in Adelaide.
SA Attorney-General John Rau said the bill creates a new offence of discharging a firearm without a lawful excuse.
Once the legislation passed, Mr Rau said a three-month amnesty would open for illegal weapons to be surrendered to police.
"The clear objective of this legislation is to put behind bars people who engage in any crime using firearms and to make any of these individuals who are in the habit of leaving home with guns in their vehicles or on their person to realise that if they are detected by the police they can expect to go to jail," he said...
Legislation allowing for the jailing of people who illegally discharge guns has been introduced in the South Australian Parliament.
It is a response to cases including recent drive-by shootings in Adelaide.
SA Attorney-General John Rau said the bill creates a new offence of discharging a firearm without a lawful excuse.
Once the legislation passed, Mr Rau said a three-month amnesty would open for illegal weapons to be surrendered to police.
"The clear objective of this legislation is to put behind bars people who engage in any crime using firearms and to make any of these individuals who are in the habit of leaving home with guns in their vehicles or on their person to realise that if they are detected by the police they can expect to go to jail," he said...
Looks like SA is making these shootings double-super illegal. That's sure to stop them!
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You planning on using your gun to fight against police discrimination? I advise against it.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#3
Police should not have the discretion to decide what civil liberties I can exercise
hack89
Jun 2012
#5
Plenty carry with out permits. All the SOBs I just mentioned were legally carrying right up until
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#7
Please point out where anyone is promoting criminal use of firearms, other than criminals. n/t
PavePusher
Jun 2012
#23
Ones that allow folks to strut around with guns on the street, prepare their kids to strut, etc.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#14
Oneshooter, I would bet 75% of your guns would fall into unacceptable to a peaceful society.
Hoyt
Jun 2012
#63
AGAIN????? You're still insinuating people have said something they haven't?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#33
Well, nice to know your denialism doesn't extend to areas other than gun violence.
DanTex
Jun 2012
#34
About that "more guns do in fact result in more homicide."- Homicide rates have *fallen*.
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#36
Did you read either of those studies? Or are you not interested in what actual social scientists...
DanTex
Jun 2012
#39
Did the places with high gun ownership *not* go through the same reduction in crime+murder rates?
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#62
No one denies that there are a lot of factors that affect crime rates.
Atypical Liberal
Jun 2012
#71
The restrictionistas would rather lick a New York sidewalk than admit...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#35
It *is* flashy- but I notice you didn't actually refute any of it...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2012
#28