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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:10 PM Mar 2012

Question for DUers: Do you hate the NRA so much you'll ally with Michael Bloomberg? [View all]

Note: This is a repost from GD, where it was locked. Unsurprisingly there were a few replies in the affirmative

I'll state right off the bat that I'm not thrilled with the NRA personally, because I'm about 90% sure that despite their proclaimed non-
partisan stance, they are in fact a right-wing political movement with a big gun club, like I stated here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117222584

"Why I'm not going to rejoin the NRA just yet."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/117222584#post50

"No point in donating money to people that piss on the President, while accepting Mitt's AWB."

I'd like to see if they go into the tank for Mittens when it comes to edorsement time. However, they are not the only big money
players in the world of gun control politics-in fact they may not even be the biggest. That 'honor' just might belong to His Honor, Michael Bloomberg.

Yep, Mayor 0.1% may be the richest player in gun control politics, thanks to his billions and his founding, financing, and co-chairmanship
of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. They have a website (with videos of Da Mayah, of course) at:

http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/home/home.shtml

So, what has our man Mike been up to lately? A few examples:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101476176

Mayor Bloomberg says ‘piling on’ of Goldman Sachs is ‘ridiculous’
Source: NY Daily News

BY TINA MOORE

Mayor Bloomberg defended a battered Goldman Sachs on Friday, saying that he thinks "this piling on is ridiculous."

Hizzoner said that he stopped by the investment bank Thursday to show his support after a former employee trashed the firm in a "nasty letter" to a newspaper.

The mayor brushed off the letter writer Greg Smith’s allegations that workers called customers "muppets" to be manipulated for profit.

"I don't know whoever said what," Bloomberg said on WOR Radio's John Gambling Show.

"But even if it was said, it's a few people and, you know, Goldman Sachs is a firm that's been around for well over a hundred years and it's a great firm.”...



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002433100

Go 99%ers !!! - 'Mayor Bloomberg Proudly Stands With Goldman Sachs' - FDL

Mayor Bloomberg Proudly Stands With Goldman Sachs
By: Jon Walker - FDL
Friday March 16, 2012 9:48 am

<snip>

Apparently Mayor Michael Bloomberg thinks one of the world’s most powerful corporations needs to be protected from a single former mid-level employee saying mean things about it. From Bloomberg Businessweek:

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg visited Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS)’s headquarters in Manhattan in a show of support after a departing employee publicly criticized the firm’s culture yesterday.

The mayor stopped by to make clear that the company is a vital part of the city’s economy, and the kind of unfair attacks that we’re seeing can eventually hurt all New Yorkers,” said Stu Loeser, a spokesman for the mayor.

The most amazing thing to me about Greg Smith’s resignation letter from Goldman Sachs is not his actual criticisms, most of them are relatively old news for a company known as the ‘vampire squid,’ but the intensity of the often bizarre wagon-circling by the financial elites in Goldman Sach’s defense. The quantity of people choosing to publicly support Goldman at this moment with some truly pathetic defenses is significant. There seems to be some actual fear that this one op-ed could do some real damage to Wall Street...



Bloomie's a man of many parts, it seems. Do you know he has his own army?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x5076002

Mayor Bloomberg: 'I Have My Own Private Army' (in NYPD)

Source: PolitickerNY

Mayor Bloomberg: ‘I Have My Own Army’

By Hunter Walker 10:06am

In a speech at MIT last night to discuss the packed sweepstakes to build a tech campus in New York City, Mayor Bloomberg said he prefers City Hall to the White House. Almost immediately after Mayor Bloomberg dampened recent speculation he’s eyeing a White House bid, he added fuel to the fire by explaining why a mayor would be the best person for the job.

Mayor Bloomberg’s recent criticism of President Obama for allowing the debt reduction Supercommittee to fail led many political tea leaf watchers to believe he’s eyeing a potential White House bid. To the dismay of those who hope he’ll mount presidential campaign, Mayor Bloomberg began his speech last night by discussing why City Hall is just fine by him.

“I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world. I have my own State Department, much to Foggy Bottom’s annoyance. We have the United Nations in New York, and so we have an entree into the diplomatic world that Washington does not have,” Mayor Bloomberg said....


http://www.politicker.com/2011/11/30/mayor-bloomberg-i-have-my-own-army-11-30-11/


Man, it's good to be a billionaire, isn't it? You can have your underlings keep track of those pesky subversives for you.
Wouldn't wan't them to cause your buds at Goldman Sachs any trouble, would we?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002461812

NYPD Infiltrated and Spied on Liberal Groups

Last edited Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:18 PM USA/ET

The AP (via CBS) notes that undercover cops went to liberal political groups' meetings, building intel files on activists and protesters.

The newswire says that interviews and docs collected during the investigation "show how police have used counterterrorism tactics to monitor even lawful activities."

The AP points out that the NYPD used these same tactics in 2004, when the department monitored church, environmental, and anti-war groups in the U.S., claiming these policies were necessary to prep for the GOP convention.

But these methods continued far after the convention took place: in 2008, the NYPD's super-secret intel department sent an undercover officer to attend the People's Summit in New Orleans. The project report gathered information on two U.S. activists, journalist Jordan Flaherty and labor organizer Marisa Franco, the AP notes....

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/03/nypd_spied_on_l.php

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57403085/docs-show-nypd-infiltrated-liberal-groups/?tag=contentMain;contentBody



http://www.democraticunderground.com/101480663

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101481530

So if you're going to dislike the NRA because of its seamy political allies, be careful you don't acquire a few of your own...




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The NRA sucks and Bloomberg is right on this issue jpak Mar 2012 #1
What about the *other* issues raised? You down with him on those? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #2
This is about NRA - not "other issues" jpak Mar 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #17
That's not what you've said in the past- last Thursday for example: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #18
So you're a one-issue voter ... Straw Man Mar 2012 #24
Hilarious, given how the NRA is in fact nothing but the National Republicans' Auxiliary. villager Mar 2012 #3
That's brilliant AH1Apache Mar 2012 #4
It makes you an enabler villager Mar 2012 #8
You give money to an organization that allies itself with the extreme right wing Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #63
how binary of you. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2012 #5
You can tell someone's politics by who they ally with? Cool! friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #6
certainly by who they desperately, repeatedly apologize for villager Mar 2012 #7
So who here has apologized for the NRA? AH1Apache Mar 2012 #9
Nra endorsed Democrats... beevul Mar 2012 #13
Don't you love the double standard? The genetic and associational fallacies get applied regularly... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #20
Yup. beevul Mar 2012 #21
Compared to how many right wingers, and what's amount contributed. Hoyt Mar 2012 #23
" Do you know if Zimmerman will still make it? " rl6214 Mar 2012 #25
Hey, why should I use my brain - limited as it may be -- on those who believe guns Hoyt Mar 2012 #26
By far the best post you've ever made, hoyt. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #27
Guess next you'll be desperately defending ALEC,too? The NRA/ALEC connection: villager Mar 2012 #32
I read the Media Matters post claiming that gejohnston Mar 2012 #33
We understand you find the NRA much more credible than Media Matters villager Mar 2012 #36
I don't see the NRA claiming anything gejohnston Mar 2012 #38
Well, you wouldn't see that, would you? villager Mar 2012 #44
Why wouldn't we see that if it was there AH1Apache Mar 2012 #46
leopards don't change their spots gejohnston Mar 2012 #48
Thank you -- precisely the point about the NRA and the GOP! villager Mar 2012 #49
Dodge. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #42
will you give us the counterpart list of NRA-ILA-endorsed Republicans? iverglas Mar 2012 #34
Nobody is acting like the nra doesn't support republicans... beevul Mar 2012 #52
the spin never ends iverglas Mar 2012 #54
LOL. beevul Mar 2012 #57
too bad you didn't succeed iverglas Mar 2012 #58
that only means gejohnston Mar 2012 #59
NO IT DOES NOT NO IT DOES NOT NO IT DOES NOT iverglas Mar 2012 #62
Your interpretation... Clames Mar 2012 #64
............................... iverglas Mar 2012 #65
Quote the entire thing... Clames Mar 2012 #68
I've quoted the entire thing 87000 times at this site iverglas Mar 2012 #70
Some people... Clames Mar 2012 #73
I forget iverglas Mar 2012 #75
Sure I did. beevul Mar 2012 #60
oh, and btw, this is as nauseatingly, um, not candid iverglas Mar 2012 #35
I stand corrected, and so do you. beevul Mar 2012 #56
Bloomberg pushed hard to get marriage equality passed in NY, so, even though I really dislike... GodlessBiker Mar 2012 #10
...and then they accuse us of aligning with RWers... Union Scribe Mar 2012 #11
Why do I have to choose? tularetom Mar 2012 #12
I hate the NRA not the 2A... ileus Mar 2012 #14
Perfect is the enemy of the good. Loudly Mar 2012 #16
Agreed- which is why I accept legislation from RW assholes like Dennis Baxley friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #19
And yet Bloomie and Daley AH1Apache Mar 2012 #22
It took 58 years from Plessy to Brown v. Board of Ed. Loudly Mar 2012 #29
Heller is nothing like Plessy gejohnston Mar 2012 #30
I was just speaking of the duration until enlightenment. Loudly Mar 2012 #37
I suspect that your going to be waiting a long time AH1Apache Mar 2012 #39
McDonald over turned Cruikshank gejohnston Mar 2012 #40
McDonald may have disposed of the remnants of Cruikshank. Loudly Mar 2012 #43
And yet violent crime is at its lowest point in 20 years and gun sales are at historic highs AH1Apache Mar 2012 #45
please explain gejohnston Mar 2012 #47
What a red herring! Loudly Mar 2012 #50
hardly a red herring gejohnston Mar 2012 #51
Here's where your wrong AH1Apache Mar 2012 #53
shares, you are no different than any of the other "social cleansers" that have gone before you. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #55
two questions iverglas Mar 2012 #66
Don't you recognize the previously PPR'd person? X_Digger Mar 2012 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Mar 2012 #69
and the jury spoke on the previous allegation iverglas Mar 2012 #71
lol ellisonz Mar 2012 #72
Apply it evenly. PPR'd means PPR'd. X_Digger Mar 2012 #74
I have made that case. ellisonz Mar 2012 #76
I don't have to, Beevul did the hard work for me. X_Digger Mar 2012 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Mar 2012 #78
Then I'd suggest alerting and presenting your evidence. X_Digger Mar 2012 #79
It's been done... ellisonz Mar 2012 #80
I'm sure some of his more *cough* out there theories will take care of him. X_Digger Mar 2012 #81
Loudly is without a doubt the former sharesunited. beevul made the catch, here: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #91
You're positively wrong. I'm happy to defend my own words, but don't attribute those of others Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Mar 2012 #83
Believe what you like... Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author ellisonz Mar 2012 #85
Oh my, care to tell us what was there? n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #89
After I pointed out that I wasn't the posters he was accusing me of being, Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #90
Well, he's consistent. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #28
hey, isn't it a free country? iverglas Mar 2012 #31
They're both dogs. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #41
You ever notice Gungeon posts never show on the front page anymore? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #61
There are three kinds of people in the world... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #86
I'll narrow it down to two. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #87
Robert A. Heinlein discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #88
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