Gun Control & RKBA

fightthegoodfightnow

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276. If it

Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:22 PM

Mar 2012

Last edited Sun Mar 11, 2012, 03:02 PM - Edit history (2)

.....inconveniences law abiding citizens, it will do the same for criminals.

Supply and demand......and let's be clear.....you only 'need' bullets for guns you own.

You claim it won't do anything to abate illegal gun owmers in the least while at the same time implying it in conveniences those who buy bullets before buying the gun.

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Buying ammunition in DC [View all] rl6214 Feb 2012 OP

More D.C. fucktardery attempting to pose as "reasonable regulation". PavePusher Feb 2012 #1

They are just trying to keep yahoos and guns from polluting the city. I support them. Hoyt Feb 2012 #82

You would. HALO141 Mar 2012 #156

Really? Ammo, but no gun? Really? Scuba Feb 2012 #2

Why do you need to be able to buy ammunition for guns you don't own? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #3

not the point gejohnston Feb 2012 #4

And... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #6

"Ammo by itself is harmless." ellisonz Feb 2012 #10

Not always rl6214 Feb 2012 #12

Oh, shit! All my guns are broken! AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #15

I've done that several times slackmaster Feb 2012 #5

SCUBA gear and tennis balls don't take anothers life with the pull of a trigger. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #11

Neither does ammo without a gun. Straw Man Feb 2012 #14

Illogical. ellisonz Feb 2012 #18

Lol Glassunion Feb 2012 #24

The presumption should be that you are up to no good. Or maybe they chew the lead. Hoyt Feb 2012 #85

I rent firearms Glassunion Feb 2012 #87

I wouldn't do it in DC if I were you. Hoyt Feb 2012 #90

I'm lucky that I live in the 99.9999999% Glassunion Feb 2012 #95

We are talking about laws. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #171

You are hiding behind laws. Some things just aren't right, even if legal. And laws can be changed Hoyt Mar 2012 #173

Negative discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #174

There are also things you shouldn't do, though legal - polluting too much, smoking around children, Hoyt Mar 2012 #175

Exactly... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #176

Because guns and ammo pollute society and are used for intimidation. We don't need guns in public. Hoyt Mar 2012 #177

Thank you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #178

How much ammo would you have if there were no guns? Hoyt Mar 2012 #179

if there were no guns gejohnston Mar 2012 #180

I can dig folks toting slingshot and a pocket full of steel balls. Hoyt Mar 2012 #183

As someone has pointed out... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #188

Or you could have the ammo for illegal, unregistered guns. Hoyt Mar 2012 #190

The likely scenario discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #195

So much for the presumption of innocence. Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #300

Simple to avoid -- don't buy ammo for a gun you "supposedly" don't own. Hoyt Mar 2012 #301

Right. So if my buddy owns a sweet .357 that he lets me take turns with at the Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #302

Buying ammo in the proposal would be if your gun is illegal -- that's the point. Hoyt Mar 2012 #303

You did see the post about DC losing all of it's gun control laws, didn't you? rl6214 Mar 2012 #304

You seem to have become confused. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #25

I am begining to wonder what I should do with the loading dies and empty brass I have for weapons I oneshooter Mar 2012 #161

Illogical? Oh, very. Straw Man Feb 2012 #30

The law is designed... ellisonz Feb 2012 #33

I know what it's designed for. Straw Man Feb 2012 #34

"and have not the slightest regard for the concerns of law-abiding gun owners." ellisonz Feb 2012 #36

You really and truly don't. Straw Man Feb 2012 #42

Misrepresentations, simplifications, and insults. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #44

Two out of three wrong. Straw Man Feb 2012 #51

You're entitled to your opinion. ellisonz Feb 2012 #52

OK, at the risk ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #53

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #55

Yeah, I expected as much. Straw Man Feb 2012 #57

Good Lord ellisonz Feb 2012 #60

Yes. Straw Man Feb 2012 #63

"you shouldn't have what you don't need in the first place" rl6214 Feb 2012 #78

but I really do try to refrain from personal attacks shadowrider Mar 2012 #205

Rights and justice discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #104

Let's be clear. The law doesn't make acquiring ammunition... ellisonz Feb 2012 #111

We are discussing an act that in and of itself causes no harm Glassunion Feb 2012 #112

I have a friend who owns a diner in Philly. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #124

My wife had a job interview. Glassunion Feb 2012 #127

I bet... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #128

They did not search the vehicle. Glassunion Feb 2012 #129

"Pissed the cop off..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #131

I guess when you exercise the 4th Glassunion Mar 2012 #137

And there we have it. beevul Feb 2012 #113

Let's be "really" clear. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #115

Okay. ellisonz Feb 2012 #116

inconvenience discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #123

What's your Constitutional argument for the ban? PavePusher Mar 2012 #142

I was designed to control and to fail. ileus Feb 2012 #117

You sound like a hidden criminal. ileus Feb 2012 #119

Some people collect cartridges. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #41

Then don't live in D.C. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #45

The same could be said about people who do not like existing firearms laws and regulations. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #68

I think folks in DC... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #105

The same could be said, to our resident "taxation without representation" guy... beevul Feb 2012 #114

Look at this academic at work... Clames Mar 2012 #149

A reporter for the Austin Chronicle purchased a .50 BMG round as a souvenier ($5). SteveW Mar 2012 #233

Wait, what? A guns' designed use is to fire a bullet? I thought it was to kill? What changed? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #40

and they don't save anothers life with the pull of a trigger. ileus Feb 2012 #29

I'm still kicking myself in the ass... -..__... Feb 2012 #28

I still have about 4 cases of that. Shot a lot of it out of a FN-FAL I was using at the time. oneshooter Feb 2012 #37

I was able to pick a few of those Battle Packs... rl6214 Feb 2012 #79

I bought ammo for my 40 cal for a year before getting a S&W 40....should I be jailed? ileus Feb 2012 #8

"...should I be jailed?" ellisonz Feb 2012 #9

Nah... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #13

Some people stockpile ammo as a form of currency hedge. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #16

There is no department of "'just cause'" ellisonz Feb 2012 #17

In all seriousness. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #19

If you don't like what I have to say... ellisonz Feb 2012 #20

If you had something to say, that would be something at least. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #21

Bite me. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #22

Your eloquence is reaching new heights. Straw Man Feb 2012 #31

Makes you wonder what happened to "civil discussion" in here? oneshooter Feb 2012 #38

Remember, he's an academically trained... Clames Mar 2012 #164

Oh, don't bring up history after Newt's spewing about it. nt SteveW Mar 2012 #234

For committing what crime? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #69

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #71

For what reason? oneshooter Mar 2012 #146

Why does the government, and by extension the clerks and such that sell ammo... krispos42 Feb 2012 #35

Not to mention the single shot break over rifles. Break it down, oneshooter Feb 2012 #39

"A well-regulated Militia" ellisonz Feb 2012 #47

Or just not live in DC, huh? krispos42 Feb 2012 #136

Spurious comparisons there... ellisonz Mar 2012 #144

simple law with good intent? gejohnston Mar 2012 #145

That's Why It's fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #262

who said anything about amnesty? gejohnston Mar 2012 #263

So... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #264

and so did Cease Fire, if they knew she was not an Oregon resident, but that said gejohnston Mar 2012 #265

Intent? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #266

of course she did not know the law gejohnston Mar 2012 #267

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #269

same offence gejohnston Mar 2012 #273

Intent fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #285

email the link to the ATF gejohnston Mar 2012 #286

Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #287

my assumptions are based on gejohnston Mar 2012 #289

You be sure to tell me fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #293

only if they are on the rifle team gejohnston Mar 2012 #295

Super fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #296

Oh, please spare me. krispos42 Mar 2012 #162

"that monopoly of force belongs to the government" ellisonz Mar 2012 #163

I'm not talking about being able to challenge the government krispos42 Mar 2012 #169

Looks like DC City Council is going to change the law MicaelS Mar 2012 #148

That's democracy. ellisonz Mar 2012 #150

The District council is not burf Mar 2012 #151

So you don't like democracy? That explains much. oneshooter Mar 2012 #159

Bite me. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #160

There you go again. Just being a rude gun grabber. A little more decorum is needed. oneshooter Mar 2012 #166

Whatever you say... ellisonz Mar 2012 #167

So you don't deny it. "You don't like democracy" must be true. THANKS!!! oneshooter Mar 2012 #168

"Or you could just not live in D.C." rl6214 Mar 2012 #152

And so vehemently defended... ellisonz Mar 2012 #153

So what's good for the goose is good for the gander? rl6214 Mar 2012 #154

"Throw a rock into a pack of dogs. The one that yelps is the one you hit." ellisonz Mar 2012 #155

I once bought a few hundred rounds of 6.5 x 54 M-S because it was for sale at an absurdly low price. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #43

Yes. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #48

How lucky for me then, that there isn't the slightest chance of your anti-gun agenda coming to pass! Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #49

I presume... ellisonz Feb 2012 #50

What percentage of your annual income ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #54

Do you really not understand why people like me think the way we do? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #56

So you're not going to answer either question? Straw Man Feb 2012 #58

I was asked for an opinion. I gave it. Sue me. ellisonz Feb 2012 #61

Still no answer. Straw Man Feb 2012 #64

LCAV? gejohnston Feb 2012 #67

Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth.... MicaelS Feb 2012 #73

You misunderstand his argument... ellisonz Feb 2012 #75

Careful there... DanTex Feb 2012 #76

How'd you know... ellisonz Feb 2012 #77

Yeah, I was grappling ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #86

"through the Marxian dialectic" ellisonz Feb 2012 #89

Yeah, that one. Straw Man Feb 2012 #98

"I just get annoyed at the volume of crap that you post." ellisonz Feb 2012 #106

I truly believe that in most cases, including yours, it is hopalophobia. oneshooter Feb 2012 #62

I assume you have no household 'luxury' items that you don't absolutely need for survival? rl6214 Feb 2012 #80

I don't have 100 guns and 30,000 rounds of ammunition. ellisonz Feb 2012 #81

No, I'm pretty much set up for what I need in retirement. rl6214 Feb 2012 #84

30,000 rounds of .22LR ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #91

Since we're now speaking of the department of "needs", Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #94

Do I spend inordinate amounts of money on such things? No. ellisonz Feb 2012 #96

Define "inordinate" in this context. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #100

Gluttony. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #109

Still tapdancing. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #118

You tapdance divinely. Straw Man Feb 2012 #102

I presume... Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #65

30,000 Rounds of Ammunition... ellisonz Feb 2012 #70

And...you didn't answer the question. Quelle surprise. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #72

I'm no wannabe Gatsby. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #74

Unresponsive. Will you continue to dodge the question? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #92

Do I spend tens of thousands of dollars on it? No. ellisonz Feb 2012 #93

The average American spends 5% of their income on entertainment. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #97

Almost all of my excess income goes to paying student loans. ellisonz Feb 2012 #99

Will you ever spend any money on personal entertainment at any point in the future? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #101

Hey it was your proposal. ellisonz Feb 2012 #107

I don't do callouts. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #122

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #125

A pro-1% view? Straw Man Feb 2012 #103

Do you spend ANY of your discretionary income for entertainment? Marengo Mar 2012 #192

On what do you base your judgement of ammo quantities? PavePusher Feb 2012 #88

Looks like I was right. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #193

If he instead bought Ipads and flowers would you approve? ileus Feb 2012 #66

is that what it would take for you? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Marengo Mar 2012 #191

Its not just buy, it is posses ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #170

Cartridge boards...scourge of mankind. An apocalypse just waiting to happen! Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #172

My neighborhood's so tough they insert the bullets manually. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #7

My state is so tough... -..__... Feb 2012 #27

And this helps with crime how exactly? Glassunion Feb 2012 #23

I once bought a wall paper border Glassunion Feb 2012 #26

You are certainly very lucky burf Feb 2012 #32

Mind Boggling fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #46

Unboggle. Straw Man Feb 2012 #59

ok fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #110

The only benefit ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #121

So There is Some Benefit fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #134

Weighed against tremendous detriment. Straw Man Mar 2012 #143

Hog Wash fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #189

Pure unadulterated BS S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #194

Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #199

And therein lies the point.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #204

Law has been upheld fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #208

LOL. Right up until they end their support..... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #214

Process? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #215

Yes, process. Already Covered and Addressed S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #218

Well now... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #217

Sterling rhetoric there. Straw Man Mar 2012 #196

Tell it to the judge. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #200

Who, me? Straw Man Mar 2012 #201

No threat? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #202

No it is not a threat S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #206

None of which are anything more than fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #210

Any evidence that this law actually prevented criminals from using firearms? S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #213

Registered Gun Owners fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #216

And what about those criminals S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #220

Asked and Answered fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #238

Training S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #219

Training ..... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #237

The frame of the 1911 IS registered... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #253

Souveniers... SteveW Mar 2012 #235

Yep fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #236

Your reading of the Constitution is fundamentally flawed. SteveW Mar 2012 #240

More....yes nonsense...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #241

personally, I am gejohnston Mar 2012 #242

Thanks, Uncle Joe. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #255

But Not All Are fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #226

And according to you S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #229

Do you consider every member of this organization a threat to our communities? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #207

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #209

Please allow me to inform you regarding cartridge collectors. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #211

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. It might be a while. oneshooter Mar 2012 #232

Apparently even the DC Council is abandoning you.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #212

Let me explain something to you very plainly. Straw Man Mar 2012 #221

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #227

Of course. Straw Man Mar 2012 #251

Answers fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #259

I collect rolled brass Martini Henry cartridges... Marengo Mar 2012 #256

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #203

No, not like that at all. Straw Man Mar 2012 #222

ABC fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #224

Utah? gejohnston Mar 2012 #228

Regarding B. S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #230

It's obvious, they cause either bad karma, moral harm, or pollution of society... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #231

Illegal guns need ammo fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #239

So do legal ones. S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #244

Assume Everyone is a Criminal? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #245

So you assume that virtually all cartridge collectors are criminals? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #248

Only fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #249

Let me assure you that virtually all cartridge collectors do *not* have a matching legal gun Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #250

Depends on the Law fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #258

So you're saying that if you break the law, you're a criminal. That's...insightful. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #260

No. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #261

Because it make so much sense for someone who owns this to be guilty of multiple felonies: Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #268

Works for Me fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #270

Then you are truely an Authoritarian. PavePusher Mar 2012 #271

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #272

You are dodging the point.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #275

If it fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #276

What an ignorant thing to say. beevul Mar 2012 #281

Got It fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #282

It is if... beevul Mar 2012 #284

You're being open about your agenda, I have to give you that. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #274

Not Unlike Your Signature fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #277

It's a quote from the book, not the movie. Two *very* different things. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #278

Correction fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #279

Conflating the movie & book is, in this case, a pet peeve of mine. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #280

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #283

I see you weren't paying attention to what happened in Maryland today.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #254

Yep fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #257

XYZ Straw Man Mar 2012 #252

so if gejohnston Mar 2012 #197

"Do you really need ammo for a gun you do not lawfully own? " rl6214 Feb 2012 #83

And Still..... fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #108

No one has stated what the concerns are of those that support the law. rl6214 Feb 2012 #132

Guns Don't Support the Law fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #133

Again, you've made MY point, there is no dept of needs. You don't get to decide what someone rl6214 Mar 2012 #139

Common Ground fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #141

"You can actually live without a gun. " HALO141 Mar 2012 #157

first DC....next VA, then MD, then WV ileus Feb 2012 #120

They? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #135

No, just the corrupt people. HALO141 Mar 2012 #158

Huh fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #165

You are a useful tool for those who want to restrict other's civil liberties hack89 Mar 2012 #243

Anything to Back that up? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #246

Besides your own words? nt hack89 Mar 2012 #247

I love how you call people bitter and angry Union Scribe Mar 2012 #147

Yes Well When You Can't Talk Guns...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #181

"anything post that has anything to do with anything other than guns" Union Scribe Mar 2012 #223

Sorry fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #225

Your response is indeed mind boggling.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #182

So ...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #184

Andf how exactly does a law about prohibiting the sale of ammunition S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #185

Covered and Addressed fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #186

Making an unsubtantiated claim and then failing to back it up isn't exactly "Covered and Addressed" S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #187

I have a question for the group. Glassunion Feb 2012 #126

none........what did I win? ileus Feb 2012 #130

Define Life and Give 10 Examples fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #140

A great question! This is precisely the point. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #198

According to You fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #288

Maybe we should write a survey and question people discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #290

We do that already. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #291

I am unaware of the... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #292

Gosh fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #294

Gosh discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #297

No Quote fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #298

please see... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #299

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #305

A bit of confusion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #306

I happen to have... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #307