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iverglas

(38,549 posts)
30. in fact, no right "carries" any responsibility
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 10:10 AM
Mar 2012

The rights we are talking about are all rights to non-interference in the conduct of our own affairs.

No one has any responsibility to exercise their rights in any particular way, or not to exercise them in any other particular way.

The entire idea is meaningless anyway. What if someone exercises a right in an irreponsible way? So? What's the remedy? None.

Saying that rights come with responsibilities is just meaningless, I'm afraid.

In fact, all rights come with the limits on their exercise that can be demonstrated to be justified, according to the standard a society applies.

Sanctions may be applied to people who transgress those limits, where the limits are clearly stated in laws.

If someone is "irresponsible" in the exercise of a right, about all anybody can do is shake their finger and say "tsk, tsk".

Of course, that may be how some people would prefer it to work.

Freedom DOES come with responsibility, elleng Mar 2012 #1
How many times was Harless investigated for misconduct? Chuuku Davis Mar 2012 #12
A little disingenuous, no? pipoman Mar 2012 #2
streets a bit more wild, as least for drivers and for cops.....do these people really buy ileus Mar 2012 #3
What possible objection do you have to COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #4
Why? mvccd1000 Mar 2012 #5
If you don't see the difference between COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #7
Any examples of a cop being shot by a CCW at a traffic stop? DonP Mar 2012 #9
Who's going to kill a cop? The permit holder? BiggJawn Mar 2012 #26
Criminals or those with criminal intent will not obey this law (how else?).... PavePusher Mar 2012 #6
If a person doesn't obey the law COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #8
It cheapens a Constitutional Right. PavePusher Mar 2012 #11
You know, we've been through COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #18
No, I have not said anything like that. Please don't put words in my mouth. PavePusher Mar 2012 #22
This is what you posted: COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #28
What you claimed I said: PavePusher Mar 2012 #29
actually iverglas Mar 2012 #31
"what possible damage does it do to you to let a cop know you're carrying?" DonP Mar 2012 #17
Actually, I don't have a problem with it COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #19
I don't have to inform a police officer that I am carrying a weapon... spin Mar 2012 #27
Small amounts of responsibility? Remmah2 Mar 2012 #10
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #13
Every "FREEDOM" ie "RIGHT" DWC Mar 2012 #14
Absolutely right, Marine. COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #20
It's the law in the State of Texas MicaelS Mar 2012 #15
As good as that info is, my opinion shadowrider Mar 2012 #16
And you're absolutely right. But the fact COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #21
How does this requirement to notify "protect the lives of cops"? n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #23
One knucklehead. He got caught. There are plenty more out there like him. shadowrider Mar 2012 #24
mark naymik is benighted. Does a police officer ever assume someone is not armed at traffic stops? aikoaiko Mar 2012 #25
in fact, no right "carries" any responsibility iverglas Mar 2012 #30
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