Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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102. You tapdance divinely.

Reply to ellisonz (Reply #96)

Wed Feb 29, 2012, 05:51 PM

Feb 2012

Last edited Wed Feb 29, 2012, 06:57 PM - Edit history (2)

Do I spend inordinate amounts of money on such things? No.

It's kind of amusing how people think their own toys are essential and other people's are a sinful waste.

I don't dream of being a 1%er.

Who does? I don't. Is there a point you're trying to make?

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Buying ammunition in DC [View all] rl6214 Feb 2012 OP

More D.C. fucktardery attempting to pose as "reasonable regulation". PavePusher Feb 2012 #1

They are just trying to keep yahoos and guns from polluting the city. I support them. Hoyt Feb 2012 #82

You would. HALO141 Mar 2012 #156

Really? Ammo, but no gun? Really? Scuba Feb 2012 #2

Why do you need to be able to buy ammunition for guns you don't own? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #3

not the point gejohnston Feb 2012 #4

And... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #6

"Ammo by itself is harmless." ellisonz Feb 2012 #10

Not always rl6214 Feb 2012 #12

Oh, shit! All my guns are broken! AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #15

I've done that several times slackmaster Feb 2012 #5

SCUBA gear and tennis balls don't take anothers life with the pull of a trigger. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #11

Neither does ammo without a gun. Straw Man Feb 2012 #14

Illogical. ellisonz Feb 2012 #18

Lol Glassunion Feb 2012 #24

The presumption should be that you are up to no good. Or maybe they chew the lead. Hoyt Feb 2012 #85

I rent firearms Glassunion Feb 2012 #87

I wouldn't do it in DC if I were you. Hoyt Feb 2012 #90

I'm lucky that I live in the 99.9999999% Glassunion Feb 2012 #95

We are talking about laws. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #171

You are hiding behind laws. Some things just aren't right, even if legal. And laws can be changed Hoyt Mar 2012 #173

Negative discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #174

There are also things you shouldn't do, though legal - polluting too much, smoking around children, Hoyt Mar 2012 #175

Exactly... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #176

Because guns and ammo pollute society and are used for intimidation. We don't need guns in public. Hoyt Mar 2012 #177

Thank you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #178

How much ammo would you have if there were no guns? Hoyt Mar 2012 #179

if there were no guns gejohnston Mar 2012 #180

I can dig folks toting slingshot and a pocket full of steel balls. Hoyt Mar 2012 #183

As someone has pointed out... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #188

Or you could have the ammo for illegal, unregistered guns. Hoyt Mar 2012 #190

The likely scenario discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #195

So much for the presumption of innocence. Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #300

Simple to avoid -- don't buy ammo for a gun you "supposedly" don't own. Hoyt Mar 2012 #301

Right. So if my buddy owns a sweet .357 that he lets me take turns with at the Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #302

Buying ammo in the proposal would be if your gun is illegal -- that's the point. Hoyt Mar 2012 #303

You did see the post about DC losing all of it's gun control laws, didn't you? rl6214 Mar 2012 #304

You seem to have become confused. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #25

I am begining to wonder what I should do with the loading dies and empty brass I have for weapons I oneshooter Mar 2012 #161

Illogical? Oh, very. Straw Man Feb 2012 #30

The law is designed... ellisonz Feb 2012 #33

I know what it's designed for. Straw Man Feb 2012 #34

"and have not the slightest regard for the concerns of law-abiding gun owners." ellisonz Feb 2012 #36

You really and truly don't. Straw Man Feb 2012 #42

Misrepresentations, simplifications, and insults. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #44

Two out of three wrong. Straw Man Feb 2012 #51

You're entitled to your opinion. ellisonz Feb 2012 #52

OK, at the risk ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #53

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #55

Yeah, I expected as much. Straw Man Feb 2012 #57

Good Lord ellisonz Feb 2012 #60

Yes. Straw Man Feb 2012 #63

"you shouldn't have what you don't need in the first place" rl6214 Feb 2012 #78

but I really do try to refrain from personal attacks shadowrider Mar 2012 #205

Rights and justice discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #104

Let's be clear. The law doesn't make acquiring ammunition... ellisonz Feb 2012 #111

We are discussing an act that in and of itself causes no harm Glassunion Feb 2012 #112

I have a friend who owns a diner in Philly. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #124

My wife had a job interview. Glassunion Feb 2012 #127

I bet... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #128

They did not search the vehicle. Glassunion Feb 2012 #129

"Pissed the cop off..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #131

I guess when you exercise the 4th Glassunion Mar 2012 #137

And there we have it. beevul Feb 2012 #113

Let's be "really" clear. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #115

Okay. ellisonz Feb 2012 #116

inconvenience discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #123

What's your Constitutional argument for the ban? PavePusher Mar 2012 #142

I was designed to control and to fail. ileus Feb 2012 #117

You sound like a hidden criminal. ileus Feb 2012 #119

Some people collect cartridges. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #41

Then don't live in D.C. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #45

The same could be said about people who do not like existing firearms laws and regulations. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #68

I think folks in DC... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #105

The same could be said, to our resident "taxation without representation" guy... beevul Feb 2012 #114

Look at this academic at work... Clames Mar 2012 #149

A reporter for the Austin Chronicle purchased a .50 BMG round as a souvenier ($5). SteveW Mar 2012 #233

Wait, what? A guns' designed use is to fire a bullet? I thought it was to kill? What changed? cleanhippie Feb 2012 #40

and they don't save anothers life with the pull of a trigger. ileus Feb 2012 #29

I'm still kicking myself in the ass... -..__... Feb 2012 #28

I still have about 4 cases of that. Shot a lot of it out of a FN-FAL I was using at the time. oneshooter Feb 2012 #37

I was able to pick a few of those Battle Packs... rl6214 Feb 2012 #79

I bought ammo for my 40 cal for a year before getting a S&W 40....should I be jailed? ileus Feb 2012 #8

"...should I be jailed?" ellisonz Feb 2012 #9

Nah... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #13

Some people stockpile ammo as a form of currency hedge. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #16

There is no department of "'just cause'" ellisonz Feb 2012 #17

In all seriousness. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #19

If you don't like what I have to say... ellisonz Feb 2012 #20

If you had something to say, that would be something at least. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #21

Bite me. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #22

Your eloquence is reaching new heights. Straw Man Feb 2012 #31

Makes you wonder what happened to "civil discussion" in here? oneshooter Feb 2012 #38

Remember, he's an academically trained... Clames Mar 2012 #164

Oh, don't bring up history after Newt's spewing about it. nt SteveW Mar 2012 #234

For committing what crime? friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #69

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #71

For what reason? oneshooter Mar 2012 #146

Why does the government, and by extension the clerks and such that sell ammo... krispos42 Feb 2012 #35

Not to mention the single shot break over rifles. Break it down, oneshooter Feb 2012 #39

"A well-regulated Militia" ellisonz Feb 2012 #47

Or just not live in DC, huh? krispos42 Feb 2012 #136

Spurious comparisons there... ellisonz Mar 2012 #144

simple law with good intent? gejohnston Mar 2012 #145

That's Why It's fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #262

who said anything about amnesty? gejohnston Mar 2012 #263

So... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #264

and so did Cease Fire, if they knew she was not an Oregon resident, but that said gejohnston Mar 2012 #265

Intent? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #266

of course she did not know the law gejohnston Mar 2012 #267

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #269

same offence gejohnston Mar 2012 #273

Intent fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #285

email the link to the ATF gejohnston Mar 2012 #286

Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #287

my assumptions are based on gejohnston Mar 2012 #289

You be sure to tell me fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #293

only if they are on the rifle team gejohnston Mar 2012 #295

Super fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #296

Oh, please spare me. krispos42 Mar 2012 #162

"that monopoly of force belongs to the government" ellisonz Mar 2012 #163

I'm not talking about being able to challenge the government krispos42 Mar 2012 #169

Looks like DC City Council is going to change the law MicaelS Mar 2012 #148

That's democracy. ellisonz Mar 2012 #150

The District council is not burf Mar 2012 #151

So you don't like democracy? That explains much. oneshooter Mar 2012 #159

Bite me. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #160

There you go again. Just being a rude gun grabber. A little more decorum is needed. oneshooter Mar 2012 #166

Whatever you say... ellisonz Mar 2012 #167

So you don't deny it. "You don't like democracy" must be true. THANKS!!! oneshooter Mar 2012 #168

"Or you could just not live in D.C." rl6214 Mar 2012 #152

And so vehemently defended... ellisonz Mar 2012 #153

So what's good for the goose is good for the gander? rl6214 Mar 2012 #154

"Throw a rock into a pack of dogs. The one that yelps is the one you hit." ellisonz Mar 2012 #155

I once bought a few hundred rounds of 6.5 x 54 M-S because it was for sale at an absurdly low price. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #43

Yes. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #48

How lucky for me then, that there isn't the slightest chance of your anti-gun agenda coming to pass! Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #49

I presume... ellisonz Feb 2012 #50

What percentage of your annual income ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #54

Do you really not understand why people like me think the way we do? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #56

So you're not going to answer either question? Straw Man Feb 2012 #58

I was asked for an opinion. I gave it. Sue me. ellisonz Feb 2012 #61

Still no answer. Straw Man Feb 2012 #64

LCAV? gejohnston Feb 2012 #67

Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth.... MicaelS Feb 2012 #73

You misunderstand his argument... ellisonz Feb 2012 #75

Careful there... DanTex Feb 2012 #76

How'd you know... ellisonz Feb 2012 #77

Yeah, I was grappling ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #86

"through the Marxian dialectic" ellisonz Feb 2012 #89

Yeah, that one. Straw Man Feb 2012 #98

"I just get annoyed at the volume of crap that you post." ellisonz Feb 2012 #106

I truly believe that in most cases, including yours, it is hopalophobia. oneshooter Feb 2012 #62

I assume you have no household 'luxury' items that you don't absolutely need for survival? rl6214 Feb 2012 #80

I don't have 100 guns and 30,000 rounds of ammunition. ellisonz Feb 2012 #81

No, I'm pretty much set up for what I need in retirement. rl6214 Feb 2012 #84

30,000 rounds of .22LR ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #91

Since we're now speaking of the department of "needs", Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #94

Do I spend inordinate amounts of money on such things? No. ellisonz Feb 2012 #96

Define "inordinate" in this context. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #100

Gluttony. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #109

Still tapdancing. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #118

You tapdance divinely. Straw Man Feb 2012 #102

I presume... Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #65

30,000 Rounds of Ammunition... ellisonz Feb 2012 #70

And...you didn't answer the question. Quelle surprise. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #72

I'm no wannabe Gatsby. n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #74

Unresponsive. Will you continue to dodge the question? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #92

Do I spend tens of thousands of dollars on it? No. ellisonz Feb 2012 #93

The average American spends 5% of their income on entertainment. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #97

Almost all of my excess income goes to paying student loans. ellisonz Feb 2012 #99

Will you ever spend any money on personal entertainment at any point in the future? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #101

Hey it was your proposal. ellisonz Feb 2012 #107

I don't do callouts. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #122

lol ellisonz Feb 2012 #125

A pro-1% view? Straw Man Feb 2012 #103

Do you spend ANY of your discretionary income for entertainment? Marengo Mar 2012 #192

On what do you base your judgement of ammo quantities? PavePusher Feb 2012 #88

Looks like I was right. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #193

If he instead bought Ipads and flowers would you approve? ileus Feb 2012 #66

is that what it would take for you? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author Marengo Mar 2012 #191

Its not just buy, it is posses ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #170

Cartridge boards...scourge of mankind. An apocalypse just waiting to happen! Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #172

My neighborhood's so tough they insert the bullets manually. nt rrneck Feb 2012 #7

My state is so tough... -..__... Feb 2012 #27

And this helps with crime how exactly? Glassunion Feb 2012 #23

I once bought a wall paper border Glassunion Feb 2012 #26

You are certainly very lucky burf Feb 2012 #32

Mind Boggling fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #46

Unboggle. Straw Man Feb 2012 #59

ok fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #110

The only benefit ... Straw Man Feb 2012 #121

So There is Some Benefit fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #134

Weighed against tremendous detriment. Straw Man Mar 2012 #143

Hog Wash fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #189

Pure unadulterated BS S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #194

Right fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #199

And therein lies the point.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #204

Law has been upheld fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #208

LOL. Right up until they end their support..... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #214

Process? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #215

Yes, process. Already Covered and Addressed S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #218

Well now... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #217

Sterling rhetoric there. Straw Man Mar 2012 #196

Tell it to the judge. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #200

Who, me? Straw Man Mar 2012 #201

No threat? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #202

No it is not a threat S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #206

None of which are anything more than fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #210

Any evidence that this law actually prevented criminals from using firearms? S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #213

Registered Gun Owners fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #216

And what about those criminals S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #220

Asked and Answered fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #238

Training S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #219

Training ..... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #237

The frame of the 1911 IS registered... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #253

Souveniers... SteveW Mar 2012 #235

Yep fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #236

Your reading of the Constitution is fundamentally flawed. SteveW Mar 2012 #240

More....yes nonsense...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #241

personally, I am gejohnston Mar 2012 #242

Thanks, Uncle Joe. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #255

But Not All Are fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #226

And according to you S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #229

Do you consider every member of this organization a threat to our communities? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #207

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #209

Please allow me to inform you regarding cartridge collectors. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #211

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. It might be a while. oneshooter Mar 2012 #232

Apparently even the DC Council is abandoning you.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #212

Let me explain something to you very plainly. Straw Man Mar 2012 #221

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #227

Of course. Straw Man Mar 2012 #251

Answers fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #259

I collect rolled brass Martini Henry cartridges... Marengo Mar 2012 #256

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #203

No, not like that at all. Straw Man Mar 2012 #222

ABC fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #224

Utah? gejohnston Mar 2012 #228

Regarding B. S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #230

It's obvious, they cause either bad karma, moral harm, or pollution of society... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #231

Illegal guns need ammo fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #239

So do legal ones. S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #244

Assume Everyone is a Criminal? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #245

So you assume that virtually all cartridge collectors are criminals? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #248

Only fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #249

Let me assure you that virtually all cartridge collectors do *not* have a matching legal gun Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #250

Depends on the Law fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #258

So you're saying that if you break the law, you're a criminal. That's...insightful. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #260

No. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #261

Because it make so much sense for someone who owns this to be guilty of multiple felonies: Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #268

Works for Me fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #270

Then you are truely an Authoritarian. PavePusher Mar 2012 #271

No fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #272

You are dodging the point.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #275

If it fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #276

What an ignorant thing to say. beevul Mar 2012 #281

Got It fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #282

It is if... beevul Mar 2012 #284

You're being open about your agenda, I have to give you that. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #274

Not Unlike Your Signature fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #277

It's a quote from the book, not the movie. Two *very* different things. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #278

Correction fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #279

Conflating the movie & book is, in this case, a pet peeve of mine. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #280

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #283

I see you weren't paying attention to what happened in Maryland today.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #254

Yep fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #257

XYZ Straw Man Mar 2012 #252

so if gejohnston Mar 2012 #197

"Do you really need ammo for a gun you do not lawfully own? " rl6214 Feb 2012 #83

And Still..... fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #108

No one has stated what the concerns are of those that support the law. rl6214 Feb 2012 #132

Guns Don't Support the Law fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #133

Again, you've made MY point, there is no dept of needs. You don't get to decide what someone rl6214 Mar 2012 #139

Common Ground fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #141

"You can actually live without a gun. " HALO141 Mar 2012 #157

first DC....next VA, then MD, then WV ileus Feb 2012 #120

They? fightthegoodfightnow Feb 2012 #135

No, just the corrupt people. HALO141 Mar 2012 #158

Huh fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #165

You are a useful tool for those who want to restrict other's civil liberties hack89 Mar 2012 #243

Anything to Back that up? fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #246

Besides your own words? nt hack89 Mar 2012 #247

I love how you call people bitter and angry Union Scribe Mar 2012 #147

Yes Well When You Can't Talk Guns...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #181

"anything post that has anything to do with anything other than guns" Union Scribe Mar 2012 #223

Sorry fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #225

Your response is indeed mind boggling.... S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #182

So ...... fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #184

Andf how exactly does a law about prohibiting the sale of ammunition S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #185

Covered and Addressed fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #186

Making an unsubtantiated claim and then failing to back it up isn't exactly "Covered and Addressed" S_B_Jackson Mar 2012 #187

I have a question for the group. Glassunion Feb 2012 #126

none........what did I win? ileus Feb 2012 #130

Define Life and Give 10 Examples fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #140

A great question! This is precisely the point. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #198

According to You fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #288

Maybe we should write a survey and question people discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #290

We do that already. fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #291

I am unaware of the... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #292

Gosh fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #294

Gosh discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #297

No Quote fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #298

please see... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #299

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #305

A bit of confusion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #306

I happen to have... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #307