Questions the left won't discuss about gun control, but should - and soon.

[beevul]

97. Interesting.

Rights do exist to benefit society, after all the point of the constitution was to make a nation, not create personal freedom that could destroy a nation... the FFs weren't anarchists...

Actually, some of them were pretty close to being anarchists in principle. But that's neither here nor there.

If you want to argue that protected individual rights exist to benefit society through the betterment and empowerment of the individual, make your case.

I would point out that, when given the chance, you also offer no solutions, just attack gun control proponents. And that's typical.

I never claimed to actually know what the solution is. I do however, know what the solution isn't :

Taking guns away from/over regulating the guns of - the people that aren't committing gun violence.

I attack gun control proponents ideas when those idea they focus on the people who aren't committing gun violence, and the guns they own. I see such things as a tell, that those making such proposals care little to nothing about gun violence, and care only about getting rid of guns.

As for coming after guns, yes, that's pretty much the only logical solution, but don't worry Americans are way to brainwashed to ever actually come after any guns... your arsenal is safe. At least until the US actually shifts so far left through demographics that the majority changes it's opinion on what "freedom" means... that's gonna happen, but not for years and years.

Ahh, another with preconceived notions, superiority and arrogance. You just know that its Americans at large that are brainwashed, rather than yourself, don't you.

Oh, and about one of those preconceived notions you have rolling around in that head of yours:

I haven't bought a gun in over ten years, haven't touched a gun in months, and don't own any so called "military style/military grade" weapons. In fact I don't own enough guns to have them be considered an arsenal, at least by people with a sense of reason.

When I said compromise I meant working with gun control people to craft a solution that you can both live with. Right now you give up nothing, and the country pays with it's blood.

Of course that's what you meant. The country pays in blood due entirely to the actions of of people that misuse firearms resulting in gun violence.

Theres your area of focus, assuming its the gun violence rather than the guns, which bother you. I am however, unconvinced that that is the case.

We give up a LOT for you to have guns... 10K people's lives a year for starters, and having to deal with endless extra layers of security, and having our kids live through the bloodbath in the news and on tv...

No, "we" give up nothing for me to own the guns I do.

So pretending the majority that DON'T own guns haven't been compromising for years is a joke.

Pretending I was referring to those people when I wasn't, is an even bigger joke.

Now it's your turn to give up something... not your life, like the 3000 kids a year murdered with guns, but a little bit of your freedom to play with your toys...

Thank you for letting me know I can safely ignore anything you might ever again say about the subject, since you're either a brady sycophant, or may as well be one. There are no 3000 kids murdered every year with guns in America by any reasonable definition, in fact, last time I saw the number, it was 56.

And "our turn" a little bit of your freedom?

Listen buddy, We've been "giving up little bits of our freedom" since 1934. We've given up more than our fair share of freedom on this issue, so quit insulting us by pretending that isn't the case .

That's compromise.

No. That's pissing down our backs and telling us its raining. You've already made clear that compromise as you define it, is capitulation. You (the gun control side) get more gun control, and we (the pro-rights side) give up a little bit more freedom, while you assure us all with smiles and talk of compromise stating how important and necessary it is... and everyone on both sides knowing full well you and your gun hating buddies will be back next session asking to 'compromise' again.

The days of that being standard operating procedure, are over, and I would suggest you become aware of it.

The existing laws are NOWHERE near strong enough. And the right has repeatedly gutted any attempt to make them meaningful. REAL gun control would have to be national, and would have to actually do something about the hundreds of millions of guns on the street, and the 10s of millions more headed there.

ROFL. Look, you already gave yourself away the '3000 kids' talking point. I guess when you used the "hundreds of millions of guns on the street" talking point it was sort of an exclamation point? Everyone knows there are not "hundreds of millions of guns on the street" in America, and that you're referring to the guns in peoples homes, which is consistent with anti-gun dogma.

But like I said, don't worry, the pro-gun side is winning... the bloodbath will continue unabated...

If you're only interested in gun centric solutions, that's on YOU, not on the pro-rights folks. It reflects accordingly on you and not the pro-rights folks.

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