Gun Control & RKBA

Atypical Liberal

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13. I find it hard to muster up sympathy for dead armed robbers.

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:47 PM

Feb 2012

The simple fact is two armed men decided that this clerk's life was worth whatever money and/or property he was carrying. They were willing to threaten and presumably follow through with killing him to get it.

I just can't muster much sympathy when their victim killed them instead.

Personally I think the law ought to be that if you get killed during the commission of an armed robbery it shouldn't matter how you got killed. Shot in the front, shot in the back, or hung from a tree.

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Judge jury and executioner [View all] safeinOhio Feb 2012 OP

Unless the first robber was trying to grab a weapon... krispos42 Feb 2012 #1

"And I can see the argument for chasing after and shooting at the fleeting Hunter" ellisonz Feb 2012 #2

Depends on local state laws. AtheistCrusader Feb 2012 #10

Perhaps the fellon should have dialed 911 and asked the police for protection? nt Remmah2 Feb 2012 #11

I said I could "see" the argument. This does not necessarily mean I agree with it krispos42 Feb 2012 #12

Do you agree with it? ellisonz Feb 2012 #14

I haven't been able to come to a conclusion on this one. krispos42 Feb 2012 #51

By engaging in hot pursuit... ellisonz Feb 2012 #52

My rule of thumb is tortoise1956 Feb 2012 #53

+1. nt. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #16

You forgot arresting officer, investigator, prosecutor, appeals court - they all exist for a reason saras Feb 2012 #3

Confucius safeinOhio Feb 2012 #4

Famous Gungeon quote: Remmah2 Feb 2012 #6

Your sympathies are with the shooter. Really? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #17

The robbers violated the golden shower rule. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #19

I support firearm ownership Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #22

Never pet a burning dog. Remmah2 Feb 2012 #57

How true. jeepnstein Feb 2012 #7

Hopefully he'll draw a good jury. ileus Feb 2012 #5

good jury would find him guilty of assault. Logical Feb 2012 #43

The crux of the matter is if the Allen (1st attacker) still posed a threat ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #8

If the attack ended, yes he went too far. Callisto32 Feb 2012 #9

The attack was over the moment he left the store Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #23

I find it hard to muster up sympathy for dead armed robbers. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #13

"or hung from a tree." ellisonz Feb 2012 #15

If you get killed during the commision of armed robbery, I don't really care how you die. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #18

" hung while caught in the commission of their crime" safeinOhio Feb 2012 #20

I wouldn't go that far Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #25

So if someone robbed you... ellisonz Feb 2012 #21

Probably not, as I have too much to lose Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #26

"as I have too much to lose to risk it." ellisonz Feb 2012 #27

It's the calculation everyone should make before doing something against the law. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #28

So you should break the law if you think you can get away with it? n/t ellisonz Feb 2012 #29

Depends on the law and the benefits vs. cost. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #31

Dude... ellisonz Feb 2012 #33

False dilemma. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #34

"It should not be against the law to kill people who tried to kill you... ellisonz Feb 2012 #35

Nope, never did. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #37

I guess it comes down to if you think all human lives have value... ellisonz Feb 2012 #38

"...your bar for losing that value is shockingly low." PavePusher Feb 2012 #39

Umm... ellisonz Feb 2012 #40

My apology, I misread your post about "after they no longer present a threat." n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #54

"person of faith"? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #64

So why have prisons at all? ellisonz Feb 2012 #65

No. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #66

The problem is your definition of "the heat of the moment" ellisonz Feb 2012 #67

I understand that, but I still sympathize with the victim. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #68

LOL.....you are what hurts the gun cause. Scary! Logical Feb 2012 #44

So, you advocate lynching of robbery suspects. Correct? Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #58

I advocate that if you die during the commission of a violent crime it doesn't matter how you die. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #59

So, please explain how you could be hung from a tree Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #60

The same way you can get shot in the back during the commission of a violent crime. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #61

You might want to read the advice of other pro-carry members Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #62

Gee would you tell me next week's lottery numbers, too? Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #63

A little voice inside one's head is not a "secret feeling" Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #69

I'm tempted to go get a permit just to spite you. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #70

Well there you go! Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #71

Not enough data to make an informed decision. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #24

As soon as the threat is clearly over - CEASE FIRE. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #30

+1 Logical Feb 2012 #46

DON'T chase the criminal. GreenStormCloud Feb 2012 #32

What do you make of a person who believes... ellisonz Feb 2012 #42

Such a person could easily end up in prison. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #47

If the robber is down and no longer a threat the shooting should stop rl6214 Feb 2012 #36

+1. Remember the OK Pharma? In prison. Logical Feb 2012 #45

Typical member of gun culture. Read state law, misinterpreted it. Then, shot incapacitated man. Hoyt Feb 2012 #41

You are assuming facts not in evidence. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #48

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. ellisonz Feb 2012 #49

While true, that is not the current subdiscussion. ManiacJoe Feb 2012 #50

That is a broad-brush smear, Hoyt slackmaster Feb 2012 #56

Heat of the Moment is a valid defense DWC Feb 2012 #55