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benEzra

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21. Yep. I thought this post over there was ironic in that vein...
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:03 PM - Edit history (1)

"Another well worn tactic is to run down the rabbit hole of minutea about guns getting into the tiny details of ballistics, terminology and definitions until the whole issue being discussed is lost. "

Ironic when the whole issue being discussed in that thread is a technical examination of why AR-15's are supposedly too powerful for civilian use.

The OP makes technical claims about .223 being more powerful than "conventional" rifles, which based on readily available and incontrovertible sources, is exactly backwards. Yet for them to open their minds enough to even question that claim, and take 30 seconds to test it against objective facts they can easily access themselves (is a .223 really more powerful than a deer rifle?), is like asking a hardcore creationist to read a paragraph on radiometric dating or consider the implications of a feathered coelurosaur.

They can't even go so far as to say "I don't like people owning AR-15's, but claiming they are super powerful is a stupid argument to use", because to question that claim would be to allow other pesky questions in. Like "are they really that rarely misused?", or "how are they really that different from a Mini-14?", or the ultimate badthink, "does going after .223 rifles actually make sense from a violence prevention standpoint?"
Well, if he is surprised about "venomous reactions" at a Democratic site Shamash Jun 2015 #1
If the poster truly believed what he wrote he'd be working to disarm the police, not the populace. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #2
wow gejohnston Jun 2015 #3
So many tells Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #4
i thought the same way collinsrent Jun 2015 #33
Is this for real, or a Poe? Here's some fact-checking... benEzra Jun 2015 #5
Thanks Ben Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #6
A bunch of back slapping in bansalot, you say? Let's take a look - - - edgineered Jun 2015 #14
That has to be one of best fiskings I have ever seen. All I can say is: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #7
Gee, I guess all of those 35ton tracked vehicles with turrets that I work on. oneshooter Jun 2015 #8
The only correction so far was to the error of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #9
more of the abuse Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #22
Interesting that they not only have to be protected from seeing a dissenting position... benEzra Jun 2015 #15
In addition to my sig line, I like this discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #20
Yep. I thought this post over there was ironic in that vein... benEzra Jun 2015 #21
re: "The OP makes technical claims..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2015 #36
There's an M.C. Escher lithograph that I think illustrates the mindset: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #23
You made 'em haz a sadon.... ileus Jun 2015 #11
Outstanding! Bookmarking this takedown. NT pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #13
I'm hoping that the original poster will have enough curiosity benEzra Jun 2015 #16
+1 NT pablo_marmol Jun 2015 #17
I think you got it with the Poe comment Starboard Tack Jun 2015 #18
They can keep their assault rifles.....I'll keep my counter assault rifles. ileus Jun 2015 #10
Speak of the devil Starboard Tack Jun 2015 #19
did I miss something??? ileus Jun 2015 #24
I doubt it Starboard Tack Jun 2015 #25
As you said, it's much too powerful! scscholar Jun 2015 #26
Is this a joke? benEzra Jun 2015 #30
I took this as a case of sarcasm and hyperbole that went wrong discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2015 #32
What logical person... scscholar Jul 2015 #34
It's hard to tell if you are being sarcastic or merely uninformed Shamash Jul 2015 #35
As you said, they're much too powerful scscholar Jun 2015 #27
Huh? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2015 #28
I think the next line will be sarisataka Jun 2015 #29
Apparently gun control is the fringe minority -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #31
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