Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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65. A firearm may be a reasonable option in the most extreme and rare of circumstances.

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:23 PM

Feb 2012

But how does that justify carrying one on a routine basis? It doesn't. Those who engage in the practice need cognitive behavioral treatment to help overcome their fears and anxiety. Encouraging them to carry a gun is just enabling them and reinforcing whatever phobia they are suffering from. I know you think you are doing a good thing and I believe your heart is in the right place, but even the best intentions can be misplaced and often cause more harm than good.

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Woman Who Shot Intruder In Home Advocates Conceal-Carry Legislation - Chicago [View all] DonP Feb 2012 OP

How many Democrats will you trash over guns? Hoyt Feb 2012 #1

The question is, how many will you and the other anti rights supporters trash. oneshooter Feb 2012 #2

Sounds like you guys are doing it right now. I support Dems who are rational on this issue. Hoyt Feb 2012 #5

how can you be rational on an issue gejohnston Feb 2012 #6

How can you be rational when you believe to carry a gun to venture out? Hoyt Feb 2012 #32

They same way I'm ratianal for carrying a spare tire in my trunk every time I venture out. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #34

Your "rational" is really irrational to most. rl6214 Feb 2012 #27

Self defense is a basic human right ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #3

But not with a gun that pollutes society. Are you saying you can only defend yourself with guns? Hoyt Feb 2012 #4

sometimes, yes gejohnston Feb 2012 #7

I am saying that there are those for whom it is the only effective answer such as ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #8

Those groups might have some reason to carry something, not necessarily a gun though. Hoyt Feb 2012 #9

Then I take it you are not against left-wingers carrying? N/T Marengo Feb 2012 #37

Problem is, to appease a few left wing carriers - you gotta allow a bunch of right wingers to carry. Hoyt Feb 2012 #38

So which civil rights you are allowed depends on your political affiliation... ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #43

First, guns are not a civil right. Second, right wingers use guns to deny civil rights to many. Hoyt Feb 2012 #47

huh? Kali Feb 2012 #52

lol -- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #64

Let me purpose a scenario. Please tell me what you would do in the situation. spin Feb 2012 #22

Crickets... rl6214 Feb 2012 #29

I don't expect to, but I will patiently wait. (n/t) spin Feb 2012 #31

Let me ask you, are you a senior citizen with degenerative disk disease? If you are, why would you Hoyt Feb 2012 #33

Yes. I was describing myself... spin Feb 2012 #40

"Are you saying you can only defend yourself with guns?" rl6214 Feb 2012 #28

Carrying a gun has nothing to do with self defense. But you knew that already. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #10

Tell that to the Pink Pistols ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #11

Wrong, using a gun is not defending yourself. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #12

easy for you to say gejohnston Feb 2012 #13

Yeah sure.. Upton Feb 2012 #15

Your mental resources tell you to grab the shotgun. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #19

You approach limits options for those who need it most ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #17

A firearm may be a reasonable option in the most extreme and rare of circumstances. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #65

Violent crime is extreme, however not all too rare. Glassunion Feb 2012 #66

1 out of 50 out of 365 days is pretty darned rare. I'll risk those odds. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #69

Are you psychic? Glassunion Feb 2012 #70

Psychic? No. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #71

So now LEOs, those with protective orders, carrying large sums of cash, etc ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #67

Not at all. They are high risk targets. That has always been my point. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #68

And what "gun free" technique would you recommend for the woman in the story? DonP Feb 2012 #18

The woman in the story was in her home. Starboard Tack Feb 2012 #20

The 5 women murdered at Lane Bryant failed at their job... friendly_iconoclast Feb 2012 #21

#77 Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #26

Ah...so now we can add... Clames Feb 2012 #30

The gun does it for you? PavePusher Feb 2012 #39

you have no idea, as a woman, how offensive I find Hoyt's (and also ST) remarks to be in this thread Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #23

Where are your sisters? shadowrider Feb 2012 #35

'Mornin...shadowrider Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #36

so you have nothing at all to say iverglas Feb 2012 #44

I don't even know where to begin. --- Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #46

well, that's a good one iverglas Feb 2012 #48

I wish we could shout this from the roof tops: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #50

"This is one of the most maligned and ridiculed groups on DU" iverglas Feb 2012 #54

yes, I think it shouldn't be. I think it is one of the MOST NEEDED groups on here Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #57

for example? gejohnston Feb 2012 #55

bullshit iverglas Feb 2012 #60

bullshit gejohnston Feb 2012 #61

well there is at least one other Kali Feb 2012 #53

hey Kali Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #56

I guess you need to be told again iverglas Feb 2012 #41

black list? gejohnston Feb 2012 #42

oh my god, I'm back here iverglas Feb 2012 #45

Their issue about Kerry was gejohnston Feb 2012 #49

oh bullshit iverglas Feb 2012 #51

ever hear of the expression gejohnston Feb 2012 #58

yeah; google this: iverglas Feb 2012 #59

so am I, gejohnston Feb 2012 #62

oh god iverglas Feb 2012 #63

So you support "Dems" that bust unions and create "Free Spech Zones", good to know DonP Feb 2012 #14

He almost ran for office once IIRC ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #16

whine Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #24

You go, girl!! Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #25

I am totally in favor of conceal carry inside your home. Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #72

Thanks to the 2nd Amendment Foundation, the NRA, ISRA and Otis McDonald it's now legal here too. DonP Feb 2012 #73