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beevul

(12,194 posts)
94. Theres just so much wrong with this I almost don't know where to start.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jun 2014

Theres just so much wrong with this I almost don't know where to start.

Almost.

The fact that you know so much about the poster and their normal activities tells me if the poster had commented, you would discount anything written by the poster. I have to assume you have checked my profile (at least) or will after reading this post. That's creepy.


The poster you are referring to here, has very consistent habits, of posting and NEVER commenting on his original OP. This has been the case for a long long time. So long in fact, that the only people they don't see it, are those who haven't been here in this forum much, or those who have but are in denial, due to their ideological blinders.

Second, the poster you refer to, is a host of the gun control reform activism forum, and enforces the SOP of that group extra strict against people who are pro-gun, and gives quite the comfortable amount of lee way for those who aren't. There have been dozens of posters blocked over there, for a single post, simply correcting incorrect information, for example.

Third, the poster in question comes into this forum, and takes a (google) dump on our SOP on a regular basis.

Evidence? Sure:

SecularMotion (4,814 posts)

6. I have no interest in your "discussions"


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=142268


Our SOP says:


Statement of Purpose

Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence.

Thin? No thinner than blocking numerous pro-gun posters in their group after a single post. People here, expect that poster to practice what they preach. To adhere to the same standards that that person expects US to adhere to. And that poster clearly doesn't.

"As for your last paragraph, the claim that gun control is popular is a well known fact and the NRA is trying to suppress it, also well known. I also support the notion that when the tipping point is reached the backlash will be swift and cut very deep, causing the NRA to wish they had compromised earlier to prevent it."


Yeah, its so popular that moms demand action has to pay people to show up.

And theres that word again, "compromise".

Where was the compromise with the NFA of 1934?

Where was the compromise with the GCA of 1968?

Where was the compromise with the 15 thousand plus state and local gun laws?


In short, since 1934, gun laws have ratcheted down tighter and tighter, and more and more, and generally speaking, nothing was given in return. Any gains that gun rights might have made, was against resistance, not because anyone said "hey, lets compromise, we have taken a lot so lets give a bit back".

Is that how you define compromise?


"Finally, the fact that you oppose this poster posting in this group just shows you don't want any debate nor do you care what the majority want or would be comfortable with. You have closed out any debate."


Nobody opposes any poster from posting in this group.

Not.A.Single.One.Of.Us.

It is however, expected that people who do, practice what they preach.

On top of that, accusing anyone of "closing debate" is beyond the pale, considering that the poster in question essentially never attempts any debate or discussion what so ever.







Letterman feels passionately KT2000 Jun 2014 #1
Amen shenmue Jun 2014 #2
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #3
Thanks for telling us ignore you. nt valerief Jun 2014 #18
It was a perfectly cromulent request. Why put them on ignore? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #27
They certainly don't embiggen the debate. Fearless Jun 2014 #35
Having a noble spirit certainly will... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #40
Can't we have one meeting that doesn't end with us digging up a corpse? Fearless Jun 2014 #63
Considering the OP has an extensive track record blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #41
Yeah, theres no effort to silence pro-gun posters... beevul Jun 2014 #98
Not really relevant to the discussion. liberalmuse Jun 2014 #39
Some discussion about this from the OP would be nice friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #44
Caution Pro-2A folks: The trees are filled with crows. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #77
Don't hold your breath. n/t HALO141 Jun 2014 #109
Got some news for you. pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #108
Indeed. HALO141 Jun 2014 #110
I think that part of the reason that law enforcement has their own pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #112
And of course group think can only affect one side, oddly every time, that being the side A Simple Game Jun 2014 #52
The OP is spam because the poster is not discussing what they post friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #75
But I see many posts that are just put up for consideration without any comment A Simple Game Jun 2014 #86
"...the fact that you oppose this poster posting in this group..." Jenoch Jun 2014 #89
Theres just so much wrong with this I almost don't know where to start. beevul Jun 2014 #94
That does not explain the lack of activity in the GCRA group friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #99
Do you think 4 million is a lot? Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #104
4 million motivated voters>200 thousand or so slacktivists friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #105
There's always a tipping point. Just not there yet. Starboard Tack Jun 2014 #106
If the gun industry would sensibily regulate their market it just might make a change. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #4
what sensible regulations? Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #5
You should not have to ask this question. If you can not look and see where the Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #6
If you can't articulate specifically what you want, then why should you be listened to? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #11
That worked out well Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #15
OMG! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2014 #56
What? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #58
It would be nice if those who continually call for "sensible regulations" S_B_Jackson Jun 2014 #8
Liability insurance. Warpy Jun 2014 #10
The NRA would love that- they're the biggest seller of gun insurance in the US friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #13
will not cover Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #14
Liability insurance to cover what, exactly? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #19
Oh, you mean you want to HALO141 Jun 2014 #111
You know what regulations. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #16
Please specify what regulations. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #17
Not going to do your research for you. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #30
You're the one claiming something needs to be done. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #36
I am quite serious Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #20
Of course you have no answers. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #29
Neither can you, apparently krispos42 Jun 2014 #66
You want Something Done, but can't/won't tell us what friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #25
You haven't asked me anything at all. canuckledragger Jun 2014 #28
OK, then. I'll ask- what sensible regulations do you want? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #33
Because Duckhunter935 ALWAYS claim ignorance! canuckledragger Jun 2014 #42
That doesn't answer our question- what sensible regulations do you want? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #45
Why is this the only comeback now? Sweet Freedom Jun 2014 #31
Sensible ideas *are* proposed- and studiously ignored friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #49
nothing will prevent raging lunatics from getting guns gejohnston Jun 2014 #50
Seems full autos are highly safeinOhio Jun 2014 #65
Before 1977, they were less regulated in Canada gejohnston Jun 2014 #76
Despite Hollywood, full-auto was never that popular... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #78
I'm sorry to see that your post was hidden. NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #100
I wonder if Letterman has armed security? Jenoch Jun 2014 #7
Probably- he had a rather well-known stalker friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #9
Wow, talking point straight from Free Republic. Hissyspit Jun 2014 #12
Pointing out potential hypocrisy is no talking point. beevul Jun 2014 #21
Comparing armed security to mass shootings is false equivalency. eggplant Jun 2014 #24
Where, in this subthread, did anyone mention mass shootings? beevul Jun 2014 #26
There is no "potential hypocricy". Oakenshield Jun 2014 #32
it is a bullshit talking point - exactly. agreed samsingh Jun 2014 #37
Elites are more equal than others? Elites get guns.... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #80
it's not all about getting guns all the time - controls on guns does not meet people still can't samsingh Jun 2014 #84
Only if those same elites were opposed to others having a driver's license. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #93
Most crime victims aren't celebrities. Are they worth less? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #38
The only thing bullshit, is the spin coming from you folks. beevul Jun 2014 #46
Except he DID express that sentiment. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #51
IMHO the general argument regarding celebrities with bodyguards blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #55
Most shootings may have been less severe if.. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #59
Lanza conducted "tactical reloads" blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #60
In the time it took him for one of those reloads... Oakenshield Jun 2014 #62
Interesting argument. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #64
Capacity between pistols and long-guns would largely be the same. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #68
7? Really? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #69
We could introduce a buy-back program.... Oakenshield Jun 2014 #71
New York tried to do seven. Straw Man Jun 2014 #88
I agree that New York's seven round limit was unreasonable. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #95
Law and effect. Straw Man Jun 2014 #101
You don't understand the concept of "tactical reloads." Straw Man Jun 2014 #87
Bull. beevul Jun 2014 #61
My point was Jenoch shared a right wing talking point. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #67
Its still a bullshit claim. beevul Jun 2014 #70
*Sigh* Oakenshield Jun 2014 #72
You're right I didn't. beevul Jun 2014 #73
Cute semantics. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #74
It would be great if you knew what you were talking about. You don't. beevul Jun 2014 #79
The only thing that's been made crystal clear is your own beligerance. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #81
What's clearer is a willful ignorance of the subject on which you pontificate... friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #82
"Time and time again I've tried to get a dialogue going..." beevul Jun 2014 #90
correction gejohnston Jun 2014 #91
That might be the case, I'll have to look it up. beevul Jun 2014 #92
This is what I would be interested in seeing more of. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #96
What I'd like to see is this. beevul Jun 2014 #97
armed security guards for protection are not the same as having every imbecile armed with guns samsingh Jun 2014 #34
Please show us anyone hereabouts that wants "every imbecile armed with guns". beevul Jun 2014 #47
the nra is a great example samsingh Jun 2014 #85
Then it should be easily refutable. Care to do so? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2014 #22
David Letterman shares my interest gejohnston Jun 2014 #23
Nobody answered locks Jun 2014 #43
I think something will move forward blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #48
Nothing will move forward until Democratic politicians stand up to the NRA. Oakenshield Jun 2014 #53
That's a simple solution. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #57
As soon as the DC DEMS grow a set. Maybe by 2116. Maybe... blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #54
The 1%ers are poutraged about the common mans rights... ileus Jun 2014 #83
I really like Cooper. He comes off not just intelligent, but professionally honest in these AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #102
When are WE gonna do something? Boom Sound 416 Jun 2014 #103
For the love of Christ........ pablo_marmol Jun 2014 #107
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