Gun Control & RKBA

flamin lib

(14,559 posts) Thu May 29, 2014, 11:46 AM May 2014

Some of the Gungeoneers will be surprised to find that the VPC [View all]

agrees with them r.e. smart guns.

BTW, Gungeoneer and Gungeon are not meant as derogatory. The term Gungeon was coined when the admins relegated gun discussions to a special forum/group. Seems apt to me. So DUers who post here become Gungeoneers while contributing to threads, including me and SecMo. I mean no disrespect.

Now, about smart guns and the VPC: VPC sees no meaningful decrease in gun violence if smart guns are invented or even mandated. Why is detailed in the following 4 page .pdf. In addition, for reasons you may not agree with, they oppose any tax money being spent on development of smart guns.

Read it here: http://vpc.org/fact_sht/Smart%20Gun%202013.pdf

We should all explore the VPC publications with an open mind, if for no other reason than to understand the opposition and why it functions as it does.

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Some of the Gungeoneers will be surprised to find that the VPC [View all] flamin lib May 2014 OP

I knew that for years gejohnston May 2014 #1

Interesting article. blueridge3210 May 2014 #2

God, there are crap toasters. I'll stick with proof marks. Eleanors38 May 2014 #3

Which controller group opposed grandfathering "extended" magazines... Eleanors38 May 2014 #4

VPC I'm guessing. blueridge3210 May 2014 #5

Actually that statement is correct. While there many regulations effecting guns, flamin lib May 2014 #6

Actually, no the statement is not correct. blueridge3210 May 2014 #7

Actually, yes that is correct. flamin lib May 2014 #8

The amount of lead in a bullet nykym May 2014 #9

And this has exactly what to do with the exemption of gun makers from flamin lib May 2014 #10

they are not gejohnston May 2014 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast May 2014 #11

not unture nykym May 2014 #14

"Gun makers cannot be sued for producing a defective, unsafe product." friendly_iconoclast May 2014 #17

Do the lawsuits mentioned in post #16 not exist in your universe? friendly_iconoclast May 2014 #18

Jumbo jets (aircraft) are also exempt from the CPSA petronius May 2014 #21

I stand by my original statement. blueridge3210 May 2014 #20

Not true- Remington has been sued many times over defective rifles friendly_iconoclast May 2014 #16

Yes I agree Remington has been sued nykym May 2014 #19

..thus demonstrating that flamin lib was wrong when they said: friendly_iconoclast May 2014 #22

if you read my post nykym May 2014 #24

You are correct, you and secmo are starting threads in the gungeon, Jenoch May 2014 #12

And I wear it with pride! nt flamin lib May 2014 #15

Maybe so. SecMo not so much. oneshooter May 2014 #23

I can't speak for SecMo but for me there are discussions I start but refuse to participate in. flamin lib May 2014 #25

"...endless red herrings, straw men and general nastiness." Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #26

That's rich. Straw Man May 2014 #27

It appears to be envy. blueridge3210 May 2014 #28

Why submit myself to abuse, name calling and any manner of logical fallacy... sarisataka May 2014 #31

We don't need more guns smart or otherwise. upaloopa May 2014 #29

I'm sorry, you are far too reasonable to post here . . . . nt flamin lib May 2014 #30

Nice words... sarisataka May 2014 #32

If gunners would show a willingness to upaloopa May 2014 #33

honest question gejohnston May 2014 #34

If persons on the pro-control side blueridge3210 May 2014 #35

The treatment of lumping all together upaloopa May 2014 #36

Good luck with that. blueridge3210 May 2014 #37

My observation is that people apply the 'lumping together' strategy when petronius May 2014 #43

What is this compromise? sarisataka May 2014 #38

Well you just pointed out the problem upaloopa May 2014 #39

Just occurred to you? Really? blueridge3210 May 2014 #40

Bingo sarisataka May 2014 #41

Well there has to be pain on both sides upaloopa May 2014 #42

Compromise is nobody is really happy sarisataka May 2014 #44

"No holds barred gun ownership". Jenoch May 2014 #45

Red states are making laws to remove power upaloopa May 2014 #46

I'm in a blue state and that is the law here. Jenoch May 2014 #47

Ok now I am feeling like I am talking to upaloopa May 2014 #48

How is it a talking point? blueridge3210 May 2014 #49

He made a ridiculous claim and could not back it up. Jenoch May 2014 #50

Look recognize you have an opinion based upaloopa May 2014 #51

Dude, it's a DISCUSSION board. blueridge3210 May 2014 #53

Stop trying to educate me ok? upaloopa May 2014 #54

I would beg to differ. blueridge3210 May 2014 #55

You are right, you don't need anymore education, you have your blinders on and don't need to see oneshooter May 2014 #56

amazing, asked a simple question Duckhunter935 May 2014 #52

Just curious... When, exactly, did the "right wing turn up the heat?" HALO141 May 2014 #57