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In reply to the discussion: At least one American city has sensible gun laws [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)62. cherry picking a few cities
Actually, I used the wrong one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cum_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc which simply means coordination does not imply causation. Since you cherry pick cities, you are also card stacking. The link clearly explains it.
The logic fallacy is what you wrote above, for I've never said that stricter gun laws absolutely equal lower crime rates, just that in general - amongst demographically similar cities - violent crime rates tend lower when under stricter gun laws.
A fact cannot be a logical fallacy.
the fallacy is saying that one has anything to do with the other. Second, demographics have little to do with it because that is saying one race is inherently more violent than the other. There are an infinite number of reasons why the murder rate would be higher in LOLA than NYC.
A fact cannot be a logical fallacy.
Studies done by the DoJ, LoC found no evidence that gun laws affect crime anywhere in the world. The Library of Congress study was even done during the so called "research ban".
Since DoJ funded studies dating back to the 1980s show that criminals rarely go to FFLs and never to gun shows, that makes the laws irrelevant because they don't affect those cause most of the murder and mayhem. There is no evidence that liberalized CCW has any effect on crime either way.
Did you and Piers Morgan go to the same school? It seems that you learned debate and critical thinking (more accurately, didn't learn it at all) from the same school of thought. The only difference is that when is loses he resorts to name calling. You are at least polite and start talk about tap dancing.
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If they are below the poverty line and buy guns, they are intellectually poor.
Starboard Tack
May 2014
#64
Actually some groups are giving guns to poor people in crime ridden neighborhoods. ...
spin
May 2014
#27
" DC public safety director said it is better to be hospitalized than to defend yourself"
Starboard Tack
May 2014
#19
He/She/It has said that he/she/it doesn't want to have a conversation with"gun nuts". n/t
oneshooter
May 2014
#44
He does the same thing in Religion, along with a few other anti-theists.
Starboard Tack
May 2014
#55