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benEzra

(12,148 posts)
55. As an AR owner...nice thought, but I think I'll pass, thanks.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:19 PM
Mar 2013

As part of a fun-n-games fundraiser, it's a neat concept, but not in the context of trying to bait me into compliance with somebody else's Authoritah. Besides, I'm very relationship oriented, so a kiss from a woman who is only trying to get me to comply with her employer's dictates...nah, I'll pass.

But I would like to revisit a statement you made upthread---that you couldn't understand why any reasonable gun owner would want to own an AR. That statement boggles my mind as much as my AR ownership apparently boggles yours.

You do realize we're talking about a non-automatic, small-caliber rifle here, yes? A Title 1 civilian centerfire .22. Not a heavy-caliber weapon, not a gun that fires faster than "regular" civilian guns, not a "badass" gun.

The civilian AR-15 platform has been on the civilian market since the early 1960's (JFK owned one), and there are good reasons why it been the top selling centerfire rifle in the United States for a decade now. The AR-15 *dominates* competitive centerfire target shooting in the United States. It's the most common defensive carbine in U.S. homes. It's the #1 centerfire plinking rifle in the United States. There are reasons for that---accuracy, ergonomics, reliability, economy, versatility, familiarity---that aren't going to be changed by manipulative advertising.

So you know where I'm coming from, I shoot a Rock River .223 AR for fun and competition, currently set up for 0-200 yard shooting with a holographic sight, and it's also my stand-in for a 12-gauge since I have little interest in shotguns. FWIW, I'm not an NRA member; I used to be, years ago, but dropped them when they got too cozy with some affiliates of the Religious Right.

Get Sarah Palin to be the woman Tempest Mar 2013 #1
LOL! She kind of creeps me out, but I am not the target of this idea... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #3
"...getting hard cash?" More like getting hard. Sounds like a PeTAful effort. Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #2
Ha! Honestly, I did not read it that way when I posted it... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #4
Someone once said, "There's a fool born every minute." (n/t) spin Mar 2013 #5
If they offered up enough cash it could work. jmg257 Mar 2013 #6
I haven't let go of any @50-100 bucks each ileus Mar 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Pullo Mar 2013 #9
LOL av8r1998 Mar 2013 #8
Fair market value + 20%? Pullo Mar 2013 #10
I was thinking full retail price plus a little... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #11
After the panic dies down .... Pullo Mar 2013 #12
Yeah right. guardian Mar 2013 #13
I am fairly certain Jenoch Mar 2013 #14
Here's the beauty of it... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #15
So you are for wasting billions, while solving nothing. Travis_0004 Mar 2013 #16
Fair enough, but... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #17
Home Defense av8r1998 Mar 2013 #18
Oh, lets see Pullo Mar 2013 #19
OK, I think these are valid reasons to own a long gun, not an AR... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #20
"Because they can..." is adequate reason. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #21
For someone raised in a military family ... Straw Man Mar 2013 #22
Do you really want an answer? oneshooter Mar 2013 #25
I love it when 'hunters' out themselves. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #37
See Below Travis_0004 Mar 2013 #26
.30-06 "kicked like a mule"? AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #38
.30-06 kicks more than .45-70.... Clames Mar 2013 #47
I don't have one of those. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #48
That 1917 would make a Ruger American feel like a feather. Clames Mar 2013 #49
I have no problem with Remington 180 grain Core-Lokt. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #50
45-70 is a pussycat sir pball Mar 2013 #56
Proper ARs are perfect hunting rifles. sir pball Mar 2013 #57
"The ARs are being destroyed, which makes rational gun-owners happy." Jenoch Mar 2013 #28
It worked in Australia. Really well. CapnSteve Mar 2013 #30
none during the decade before either gejohnston Mar 2013 #32
Australia did not have Jenoch Mar 2013 #39
Turn in a gun worth over a thousand for a kiss from a bimbo? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #23
-so- tempted to cross post this to HoF. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #24
Aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha rl6214 Mar 2013 #27
OK, Everyone take a breath... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #29
Why not just have Bloomberg adopt everyone in the country and pay us all an allowance? jmg257 Mar 2013 #31
OK, Maybe removing the angst entirely is a bridge too far... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #33
There is always angst when faced with the loss of a loved one! :) nt jmg257 Mar 2013 #35
Good idea, make that happen... Clames Mar 2013 #34
Every industry has grey and black markets... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #42
Except they can't. Clames Mar 2013 #46
Another great idea in your response... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #53
economic bans? gejohnston Mar 2013 #54
Sounds about as sexist as the people who use women as sexual objects to sell guns. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #36
You are absolutely correct... CapnSteve Mar 2013 #40
I'd be interested in seeing a study on it. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #41
Is that because the 06"kicks like a mule"? oneshooter Mar 2013 #43
Nope. She prefers the semi-auto, and lighter weight. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #44
Message auto-removed Gold_from_lead Mar 2013 #45
Trade hard steel for hard cash and a hard... Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #51
You know what's awful about this idea? ewagner Mar 2013 #52
As an AR owner...nice thought, but I think I'll pass, thanks. benEzra Mar 2013 #55
How about I just have my, ahh, sir pball Mar 2013 #58
This has to be without a doubt Homerj1 Mar 2013 #59
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