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Gun Control & RKBA

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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 06:01 PM Feb 2013

Last night I noticed my brother-in-law's gun safe was open [View all]

I'm interested in people's thoughts on this. I'll share mine below.

My wife, daughter and I were over baby-sitting their twin boys (5 years old). Later in the evening, I was checking out his gun-smithing bench in his office, and noticed that his larger gun safe was open, with five or so AR-15 rifles inside, in various states of customization. It inspired me to see if he had his ammo properly locked up, and I noticed that in fact he had several boxes of rounds sitting on his workbench, a few feet away from the safe. (this stuff resides in his house, in his office room, it's not out in a garage or out-building)

I generally think of my BiL as the stereo-typical Responsible Gun Hobbyist(tm). He had training in the military, he's a smart, level headed guy, he always took what I considered to be comprehensive safety precautions when transporting and operating his weapons, etc.

I was a bit shocked to see ammo and weapons just laying around his office unsecured and unsupervised. I can tell you his twin boys are damned smart, and clever in the way that causes kids to get into stuff and figure out how to operate it just well enough to cause hilarity. I've watched them figure shit out, and even as kindergarteners, I consider them capable of loading a gun and firing it, by trial and error or otherwise.

At any rate, it's one of those things where it could happen 1000 times, and nothing at all would go wrong, but then that 1001th time we'd get a horrific phone call, or see it on the news. Or maybe something could have happened last night, with my family involved too. I had no idea that stuff was laying out, and I can tell you my eye was not on those kids every second by any means.

As I said, I'm interested in other people's thoughts. Personally, my opinion of his gun safety credibility dropped a notch last night. I worried about his sons and gun safety in a more abstract way before, but now it's a bit less abstract.

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Your opinion of his gun safety credibility "dropped a notch".... hlthe2b Feb 2013 #1
Well, that situation doesn't sound very "well regulated", to me. MissMarple Feb 2013 #2
You should mention it to him sarisataka Feb 2013 #3
Very good suggestions. elleng Feb 2013 #5
I am very good at calling people sarisataka Feb 2013 #9
a great attribute! elleng Feb 2013 #11
Diplomacy is the art of letting other people have your way iiibbb Feb 2013 #15
at least we got an adult response in 3 tries iiibbb Feb 2013 #7
Adult response is to be more concerned about the children in that household... hlthe2b Feb 2013 #12
Are you in that family? No? iiibbb Feb 2013 #13
The children's safety comes first for anyone but the most irresponsible among us. hlthe2b Feb 2013 #14
What excuses? I just spoke in admiration of an adult response in #3 iiibbb Feb 2013 #16
Enjoy your stay here, which will undoubtedly be blissfully hlthe2b Feb 2013 #17
My stay since 2004 you mean? iiibbb Feb 2013 #18
A good response sarisataka Feb 2013 #19
I NEVER suggested a "screaming fit"--YOUR words... Adult response is NOT to ignore risk to children hlthe2b Feb 2013 #20
You response seemed to indicate sarisataka Feb 2013 #21
You and I are not in disagreement... You at least saw the need to intervene unlike the poster who hlthe2b Feb 2013 #22
Correct we are in complete agreement about acting sarisataka Feb 2013 #23
I don't know where you got that I thought it should be ignored... iiibbb Feb 2013 #24
I'm with this one. tblue Feb 2013 #26
I'd drop his gone safety much more than A notch, elleng Feb 2013 #4
what did you do next? gejohnston Feb 2013 #6
Called the police, I would hope mwrguy Feb 2013 #25
Yes, potentially destroy a family over a correctable problem.. iiibbb Feb 2013 #27
cops wouldn't even bother showing up gejohnston Feb 2013 #28
Likely he just forgot Warpy Feb 2013 #8
what did you do? and Yes, it was very slack on his part and not to mention his wive, too. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #10
Your BIL screwed up and you should say something to him. Jenoch Feb 2013 #29
Dad never had a gun safe. We were too poor. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #30
thanks to everybody for their thoughts phantom power Feb 2013 #31
You know him better than I, but he should (via another family member?) be told to change his ways... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #32
Truth be told... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #33
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