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TxRider

(2,183 posts)
20. I see it like this..
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 11:31 PM
Jan 2013

The 2nd stating that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed can only be read as an individual right.

"The people" throughout the document refers to individuals and individual rights.

Regardless of intent then, or now, I see any interpretation of "The people" in the 2nd to mean anything other than individuals to pose a serious threat to protections of the rest of our rights.

We an argue about the first half of the 2nd amendment all day long, but to say that the 2nd oes not protect individuals rights cannot be accomplished without interpreting "the people" in the 2nd to mean other than individuals.

If that interpretation were to be codified then you can be assured that "the people" as used in the 1st amendment and all the others using "the people" to protect individual rights is very open to challenge in the future.

To me the only clear way forward if you want to change is to modify the 2nd amendment itself, not to twist an interpretation of convenience that opens up a threat to almost all our individual rights being challenged. It would not be a good precedent to set.

modern ignorance on 2ndA jimmy the one Jan 2013 #1
Oddly, people that state the real reason for it they're called crackpots iiibbb Jan 2013 #2
English bill of rights 1689, just glorious jimmy the one Jan 2013 #4
You are hinging everything on only part of the history... as am I, I guess iiibbb Jan 2013 #5
Like this... jmg257 Jan 2013 #7
Even though not contemporary, in the 2nd & Constitution, atleast 3 definitions jmg257 Jan 2013 #6
I see it like this.. TxRider Jan 2013 #20
I have no trouble that the people have 'the right to keep and bear arms' as jmg257 Jan 2013 #21
Science and reality are two things Republicans do not believe in. Kablooie Jan 2013 #3
Which science? gejohnston Jan 2013 #8
I rather like... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2013 #9
As noted in the links to the original articles they are international bodies of interdisciplinary toddmiller Jan 2013 #14
true gejohnston Jan 2013 #15
They meet one criteria and fail the other toddmiller Jan 2013 #16
Hemenway et al gejohnston Jan 2013 #17
The link below is a discussion of that issue. Media and others misinterpret toddmiller Jan 2013 #22
Criminologists are scientists. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #10
For the same reason we don't use science to determine what should be done about climate change. DanTex Jan 2013 #11
scalia's phantom support for 'well regulated' jimmy the one Jan 2013 #12
Carrying arms is not Bearing Arms (wm rawle) jimmy the one Jan 2013 #13
Kleck & Lott & Mary Rosh too jimmy the one Jan 2013 #18
Lott's book was published by gejohnston Jan 2013 #19
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