Gun Control & RKBA

michdem56

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73. True

Reply to hrmjustin (Reply #49)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:49 PM

Jan 2013

Yes, I know we do, but do they know that? For what they get paid, they should have it all under control.

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Here is the problem [View all] iiibbb Jan 2013 OP

Snort. "Forget about gun control! Because the budget!" Squinch Jan 2013 #1

No, because I don't want a resurgence of Republican power in its current form iiibbb Jan 2013 #6

Oh. Well then we better just drop this whole gun control conversation. Squinch Jan 2013 #12

Record numbers eh? Callisto32 Jan 2013 #55

Sandy Hook Elementary, Taft High School, Stevens Institute, Hazard Community College, Squinch Jan 2013 #59

Anecdotes, even clusters thereof, do not useful datasets make. Callisto32 Jan 2013 #60

I was responding to a poster who was saying that there was no Squinch Jan 2013 #61

It's been said over and over this week upaloopa Jan 2013 #2

Thanks for the concern n/t doc03 Jan 2013 #3

Thank you so much for your support of gun worship Progressive dog Jan 2013 #4

To say I don't care about children iiibbb Jan 2013 #7

Emotional blackmail is a tool of the weak. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #9

Every year far more children are killed by guns then by truck bombs. Kaleva Jan 2013 #11

*sigh* No they are killed with guns. krispos42 Jan 2013 #17

Yeah. Shadowflash Jan 2013 #27

For that matter, why not just go ahead an legalize owning Howitzers and Tactical Nukes? apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #62

you can legally own a howitzer gejohnston Jan 2013 #64

I didn't know that, actually. Interesting. Even though we're on different sides of this issue, apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #70

Not a howitzer, but with enough money, you can own it. oneshooter Jan 2013 #71

Cool video. Gun issue aside, glad someone is keeping vintage pieces like this in service apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #72

The spoons! The Ryder trucks! The guppies! The pool noodles! They ALL kill people! Squinch Jan 2013 #14

Cheap "appeal to emotion" fallacies... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #22

+1,000. Spot-on reply, and 100% accurate. Sums it up perfectly. apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #15

Applauding logical fallacies. Callisto32 Jan 2013 #57

If you think the above is a "logical fallacy" then you don't understand what a logical fallacy apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #63

Seriously. It's like Mrs. Malaprop on speed. Squinch Jan 2013 #65

LOL! Hadn't though of that play in years! Spot-on description, too. Exactly right. apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #68

"You came to different policy preference than I did.... Callisto32 Jan 2013 #56

They have a license to do this, I'm afraid. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #66

38 school children killed -- Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #5

Agreed.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #8

George Allen odd man out I guess jimmy the one Jan 2013 #10

I think this article is telling as to what kicking a hornets nest looks like... Elmergantry Jan 2013 #25

This just means you'll have to work harder to convince other gun enthusiasts... Kaleva Jan 2013 #13

I've been on conservative sites for ages iiibbb Jan 2013 #19

President Obama campaigned on renewing the AWB back in 2008 Kaleva Jan 2013 #20

Two words. Sarah Palin. iiibbb Jan 2013 #23

Oh! So elections have something to do with the quality of candidate? Cause if I'm not mistaken, Squinch Jan 2013 #26

What are you not getting. iiibbb Jan 2013 #30

That's nice dear. Choose the pro-gun candidate. But didn't this start with you saying Squinch Jan 2013 #34

The draw of many moderates to Democrats was because of the budget, and the easing of Democratic iiibbb Jan 2013 #36

Didn't you just say you were going to vote for someone because they were pro gun? Is that a multiple Squinch Jan 2013 #37

He said "all else being equal" or somethign to that effect. Callisto32 Jan 2013 #58

Why? Do you plan on supporting Republicans in the next election? SecularMotion Jan 2013 #16

I won't vote for Cuomo... iiibbb Jan 2013 #18

Nevermind just 1994 DemDealer Jan 2013 #21

waynes world alert jimmy the one Jan 2013 #29

you sound like the Republicans I argue with when I say the same thing about gay and abortion rights iiibbb Jan 2013 #31

I live in a VERY Red state. DemDealer Jan 2013 #43

Tell that to the big dog Berserker Jan 2013 #87

What makes you think it's going to cost the presidency? Have you seen the polls? DanTex Jan 2013 #24

What has Nate Silver broken it down for you? iiibbb Jan 2013 #32

In other words, no, you don't believe in polls. DanTex Jan 2013 #33

The polls show much, much weaker support for new gun bans than in 1994... benEzra Jan 2013 #35

It is still well over 50%. DanTex Jan 2013 #39

I understand. We've been here before, though. benEzra Jan 2013 #40

As far as I can tell, the polls simply use the terms "assault weapon" and "high-capacity magazine". DanTex Jan 2013 #42

Have you seen what just passed in New York? jeepnstein Jan 2013 #44

Gun people call all gun laws "draconian". The word loses meaning. DanTex Jan 2013 #48

Draconian. Straw Man Jan 2013 #85

Hey! Have you heard?? New York dropped from #1 in gun deaths in 2006 to not even in the top 5! Squinch Jan 2013 #67

first passed in 1911? and a few afterwards? gejohnston Jan 2013 #69

Well ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #84

Except that Squinch Jan 2013 #86

Post hoc ergo propter hoc gejohnston Jan 2013 #88

So what happened then? Squinch Jan 2013 #89

a lot more than one simple thing gejohnston Jan 2013 #90

Yet, New York has fallen faster than the others, going from the largest number of deaths to Squinch Jan 2013 #93

licensed gun owners are irrelevent gejohnston Jan 2013 #98

Guns are very durable. Straw Man Jan 2013 #91

That's why it took 12 years for effects to be felt. Squinch Jan 2013 #92

12 years? Straw Man Jan 2013 #94

Hands and feet. But you also forgot the spoons and pool noodles. Squinch Jan 2013 #95

FBI stats -- look it up. Straw Man Jan 2013 #96

Nah. The minute you start with the "X kills more people than guns" idiocy, you reveal that it is Squinch Jan 2013 #97

OK, I'll do it for you. Straw Man Jan 2013 #99

I wonder how many respondents benEzra Jan 2013 #45

That depends on your definition of "ordinary". DanTex Jan 2013 #46

washpost report on recovered hicap-mags in VA jimmy the one Jan 2013 #41

Apologies for the jargon... benEzra Jan 2013 #54

Walking and chewing gun is so very, very hard! JoePhilly Jan 2013 #28

Won't you think of the children? Undaunted Jan 2013 #38

Here, Here michdem56 Jan 2013 #47

We pay these people to do more than one thing at a time. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #49

True michdem56 Jan 2013 #73

You haven't looked at an opinion poll anytime recently BainsBane Jan 2013 #50

my question is gejohnston Jan 2013 #51

Does it matter? BainsBane Jan 2013 #52

no they are not my "peeps" gejohnston Jan 2013 #53

Clinton "Don't trivialize gun culture" iiibbb Jan 2013 #75

He also supports the party's position on gun control BainsBane Jan 2013 #76

I don't know what you are talking about iiibbb Jan 2013 #77

in full disclosure BainsBane Jan 2013 #78

If you have not taken the time to get to know people iiibbb Jan 2013 #79

Have you taken time to know me? BainsBane Jan 2013 #80

My response was to that of opinion polls iiibbb Jan 2013 #81

Clinton has also said BainsBane Jan 2013 #82

The possible repeat of 1994 is not a straw man. iiibbb Jan 2013 #83

DUzzy! jpak Jan 2013 #74