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In reply to the discussion: Poll: Pope Francis calls for inclusion of gays in society, saying he has no right to ‘judge’ [View all]stevenleser
(32,886 posts)50. I hear you. And I note in particular that most of the folks who I know from here to be regular
posters of this group (and actual LGBT) voted that they dont think that these statements by the pope mean much of anything.
I am going to cover his statements on my radio show this week and I am going to make sure that skepticism is included.
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Poll: Pope Francis calls for inclusion of gays in society, saying he has no right to ‘judge’ [View all]
stevenleser
Jul 2013
OP
First, the Catholics on DU might take issue with your opening line and I would agree with them
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#1
It is like a puff piece on the Pope that attacks American Catholics to accomplish the Pope puffing.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#6
You claim you asked because you wanted opinions, you got one but you don't like it, poor guy!
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#13
No, I got a personal attack disguised as an opinion. That is very different. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#17
Care to offer specific complaints? What was a personal attack? I asked you many questions about
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#19
Yes it was and it's easy to prove. How many "You" and "Your" words are in his reply to me? nt
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#40
He's not responding to me. He's imputing beliefs I never voiced and then attacking them. AND...
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#42
It may push those catholics who are on the fence into being firmly in favor of
kestrel91316
Jul 2013
#3
Francis still condemns actual gay relationships and it is those relationships that are punished in
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#5
The problem is that the RCC makes a distinction between just and unjust discrimination
MNBrewer
Jul 2013
#38
Can you support your assertion that Francis called for inclusion of gay people in society?
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#21
Then what exactly does the word 'this' in your poll refer to if not the words above it?
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#23
That's the opinion that I asked for. I don't decide on my opinion of something that affects the LGBT
stevenleser
Jul 2013
#28
The first one was the same opinion with details and requests to think about these issues in
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#31
I'd like to be optimistic. But in reality I think any short-term change will be superficial.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#45
I hear you. And I note in particular that most of the folks who I know from here to be regular
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#50