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Scootaloo

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11. How many times have i corrected this bullshit, oberliner?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 06:06 PM
Apr 2015

More often than you've paid it any mind, obviously.

1) With the exception of Lebanon (and as of 1991, Kuwait) every nation on earth that hosts Palestinian refugees has offered them citizenship. Jordan has granted them de facto citizenship since the 50's (which is different from de jure, becuase...)

2) whether or not a refugee becomes a citizen of their host state is wholly up to that refugee. Not Jordan nor any other nation can legally go "okay, you're all citizens now." They could - as Jordan - grant them rights equal to citizens, but can't actually make them citizens without the consent of the refugees.

3) becoming a citizen of a host state annuls the refugee's status and rights as a refugee. Their right of return, for starters - if one of the Somali or afghan refugees here in Seattle decides to become a US citizen, they forfeit any right to return to their home in Somalia or Afghanistan, if either nation decides to bar them - Somalia can go "no, you are American, live in America."

The only state forcing Palestinians to live as refugees is Israel, by denying their rights as refugees. it has been doing so since 1950, and always for the same reason - to maintain the rewards of ethnic cleansing.

If IS is attacking Palestinian refugee camps in Syria.. It is Tuesday Apr 2015 #1
What about Jordan? oberliner Apr 2015 #3
Yep.. Jordan may be next... It is Tuesday Apr 2015 #4
"Israel will remove them from the face of the earth" Aerows Apr 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #9
So to you, being a Democrat means being buddies with IS? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #10
Of course that's not what he said, King_David Apr 2015 #13
Why are you defending a disruptor that has been R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #34
I thought I had you on ignore King_David Apr 2015 #37
Run, rabbit, run... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Apr 2015 #29
This sounds ominous for the people libodem Apr 2015 #2
one of many Palestinian refugee camps all over the Middle East guillaumeb Apr 2015 #5
Alternatively, Palestinians could've been granted full citizenship in these countries oberliner Apr 2015 #6
as long as we are on the subject of right of return guillaumeb Apr 2015 #7
Why change the topic? Oberliner was talking about Palestinians being forced to be refugees for King_David Apr 2015 #14
because the root of the problem guillaumeb Apr 2015 #17
Actually you again attempted to change the topic, King_David Apr 2015 #19
under what legal principle does one guillaumeb Apr 2015 #20
Who's talking "legal" King_David Apr 2015 #22
another novel legal principle guillaumeb Apr 2015 #24
Again :Who's talking "legal"? King_David Apr 2015 #25
And once again we know when you get cornered. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #36
How many times have i corrected this bullshit, oberliner? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #11
The answer to your question is ZERO King_David Apr 2015 #12
You are full of Hasbara. n/t Little Tich Apr 2015 #28
Whatever that means, King_David Apr 2015 #31
Another well-thought and articulated reply from king_David. bravo. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #30
Scootaloo, when you post something factually incorrect King_David Apr 2015 #32
The envelope, please! cloudbase Apr 2015 #41
Strange alert King_David Apr 2015 #43
Netanyahu has blood on his hands as usual. Little Tich Apr 2015 #15
Truly not even the slightest clue of what you are talking about oberliner Apr 2015 #18
The PA/Abbas went to the UN to request help for Palestinian refugees in Syria azurnoir Apr 2015 #21
You are wrong. Little Tich Apr 2015 #26
How can you post such blatent nonsense as if it's true or fact? nt King_David Apr 2015 #23
See post #18. n/t Little Tich Apr 2015 #27
Bibi has Rabin's blood on his hands ... Israeli Apr 2015 #33
Daily Times (Lebanon) had a story that most of it was taken back now. bemildred Apr 2015 #35
Taken back by whom? oberliner Apr 2015 #38
A combo of Palestinians and "local fighters". bemildred Apr 2015 #39
The foreign fighters problem: bemildred Apr 2015 #40
Civilians flee as militants seize most of Damascus camp bemildred Apr 2015 #44
This article has some more information oberliner Apr 2015 #45
The international community is already pretty busy ... bemildred Apr 2015 #46
"The credibility of the international system itself is at stake..." oberliner Apr 2015 #47
I don't think the international system has much credibility left to lose. bemildred Apr 2015 #48
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