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In the discussion thread: “What must be said” by Günter Grass [View all]

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 06:04 PM

59. And if I did, you'd be just the person I'd nominate to teach me!

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It would be so easy and so entertaining! Everyone who supports the Palestinians and dares to criticise Israel at all is not only antisemitic, but a Nazi. And if they take that step too far and speak out against bigotry against Palestinians or Muslims, then they're antisemitic brownshirt Nazi POS who are speaking in code and in reality expressing their adoration of the Protocols!

How did I do?

*edited to add for the benefit of anyone who isn't familiar with myself or the person I'm replying to that my comment is a sarcastic one*

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“What must be said” by Günter Grass [View all]	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	OP
Nice poem about Jews coming from a former Waffen SS soldier. n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#1
It is a very good poem, period. Deviate from the poem if you must and you make his point.	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#2
He's a POS nazi who believes Israel is a threat to peace, not Iran....	shira	Apr 2012	#3
Rant away, and you keep making his point...thanks. n/t	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#5
Shame on you for this lie. You expose yourself.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#105
What lie?	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#109
This can't be a serious reply.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#113
How very 2+2=5 of you.	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#114
Notice your use of the past tense, as opposed to Shira for whom you are running interference.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#116
It took 6 decades for Grass to come clean about his SS past. Why? n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#117
You may be demonstrating one reason why he might have been reluctant.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#120
I'm not running interference for anyone.	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#119
De facto, you are.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#137
A child soldier? At 17?	oberliner	Apr 2012	#131
A drafted minor, if you wish. Drafted.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#136
He volunteered to fight for the Nazis in the navy	oberliner	Apr 2012	#140
Your argument is not relevant and a distraction.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#142
I made no argument about nuclear weapons	oberliner	Apr 2012	#145
That is correct. Which is why you are engaging in irrelevant distraction.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#146
Fine, let's talk nuclear weapons and Israel	shira	Apr 2012	#148
Bush and Obama have both had to resist an Israeli push to start a war on Iran.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#150
Grass wrote that Israel will annihilate Iran's people in a war....	shira	Apr 2012	#152
This distraction was not introduced by me	oberliner	Apr 2012	#155
seems he was drafted into the SS rather than joining voluntarily	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#4
And of course you believe him	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#33
no I think he was drafted as a teenager	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#34
That's what he says	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#35
well that's your prerogative isn't it?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#37
Yup, my perogative	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#40
If Grass HAD enjoyed himself in the Waffen SS	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#91
Cut the BS out WRT support for Netanyahu....	shira	Apr 2012	#95
I'm not an "Israel hater"...just a critic of what that state's government has done	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#99
Ehud Barak offered far more than Rabin was willing to concede just 5 years prior.	shira	Apr 2012	#100
Yeah...but that's largely due to the fact that he's STILL Bibi's defense minister	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#101
Bullshit. The International Left blasted his peace efforts back in 2000...	shira	Apr 2012	#102
Thank you, Mr. Objective Spokesperson of the "International Left"	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#138
You think Gunter Glass represents the Left? If so, how is it...	shira	Apr 2012	#149
I don't answer meaningless questions. You definitely do not represent the "International Left" --	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#151
Well, I don't expect Leftists to side with Waffen SS nazis...	shira	Apr 2012	#153
Shame on you once again.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#156
What do you have to say WRT Gurvitz' article about the International Left...	shira	Apr 2012	#157
You mean those more concerned with hardline ideological purity as compared to	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#158
Azurnoir, why do u think Grass waited 60 yrs to admit he was Waffen SS? n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#36
I don't know why do you think ?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#39
Why are you refusing to accept	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#41
the same could be asked of you why do need to believe that he volunteered for the SS?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#44
True	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#48
It was in the same autobiography that he revealed that he was drafted into the SS Panzer unit	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#51
On the contrary	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#53
"I don't believe anything he says" so then why bring up his autobiography? n/t	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#55
It said he'd concealed it for decades, not that he'd been a member for decades	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#58
he wasn't exactly	cali	Apr 2012	#164
but unfortunately for you it's not just me saying that n/t	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#46
The fact that Grass devoted the next sixty years to confronting Germany's Nazi history	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#57
Tell me what you think about post #67 WRT Grass....	shira	Apr 2012	#79
I think it's not a particularly impressive argument	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#89
Not impressive? Iran isn't attacking Israel through Hamas and Hezbollah?	shira	Apr 2012	#98
Other than daring to call out Bibi the Infallible on his demands for slaughter	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#92
Grass whitewashed Iran's hostility towards Israel, its support for terror/rockets...	shira	Apr 2012	#96
I'm guessing that there are some people who are demonizing Grass	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#56
Grass deserves criticism. The worst thing he said about Ahmadenijad...	shira	Apr 2012	#67
well I don't know about that however	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#77
Not surprised	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#78
Is the Pope demonizing Israel?	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#93
Do I believe he was 17 years old at the end of the war? Yes I do.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#108
Right, Iran is no threat. They attack Israel through Hamas and Hezbollah...	shira	Apr 2012	#110
Hamas is the result of Israeli violence.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#115
When you said Iran has attacked no one, you were wrong. Correct?	shira	Apr 2012	#118
Iran is supporting the Gazan defense against a perpetual Israeli attack.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#121
Gazan defense? They're very clear (on video in Arabic) that they really...	shira	Apr 2012	#123
Ha, ha: "Israel got out of Lebanon back in 2000."	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#126
Yeah, they did. And Hezbollah started the 2006 war.	shira	Apr 2012	#132
of course on the flip side of that one could say that Israel has been in a proxy war against Iran	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#134
It's a rotten poem - the first four lines are OK	LeftishBrit	Apr 2012	#6
Thanks for stopping by with a crap review. n/t	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#8
So a negative reaction is crap?	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#9
The blame Israel first crowd is having orgasms over it...	shira	Apr 2012	#10
You would think people would	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#43
ah so Leftish Brit and I are agreeing with Stormfront that's nice to know thanks n/t	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#45
Why, yes, you are	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#49
only me ? I suggest you read comment #6 too anything to say about that	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#50
I wasn't aware I had to engage	leftynyc	Apr 2012	#52
really is that your reasoning?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#54
The review was, learn to read. n/t	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#11
You must be reading a different review.	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#12
I believe it is a fair bet, that he'll not be concerned of your opinion..considering his	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#13
They're allowed to have an opinion about someone's reaction of a review...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#16
I'm not into poetry, myself. Nor into Godwinising...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#18
Godwinising (don't all just love that word)	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#76
Shame on you for this falsehood.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#104
Iran believes it's about Jews. It's why they fund and arm Hamas and Hezbollah...	shira	Apr 2012	#111
"...who became one of the GREAT WRITERS of the last 67 years"	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#127
Or Dr Seuss...	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#128
Interesting comment from Tom Segev in Ha'aretz	LeftishBrit	Apr 2012	#7
He can become an contributing writer...	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#14
Being familiar with Der Sturmer, it was violently antisemitic...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#17
What is anti-semitism?	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#19
Criticising Israel isn't antisemitism...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#20
"Criticising Israel isn't antisemitism..."	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#22
The bulk of yr post argued that it was...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#23
...the poem was not the slightest bit antisemitic...	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#25
I'm sure anyone who's the slightest bit rational would agree it's not antisemitic...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#30
Violet, you obviously need a lesson WRT what is antisemitic or not....	shira	Apr 2012	#42
And if I did, you'd be just the person I'd nominate to teach me!	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#59
You're avoiding the obvious...	shira	Apr 2012	#65
Pretty sure I covered all the obvious stuff in my post...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#68
and what about the Palestinian 'cause'?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#75
What about it? That it's not at all antisemitic or bigoted in any way whatsoever? n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#82
well it seems you've had a change of heart	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#83
Yeah right, no more posting any of that as none of it's true. n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#84
well IMO Palestions love their occupiers	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#85
That doesn't give Palestinians or their supporters the right to be anti-Semites	shira	Apr 2012	#86
what kind of peace deal oh and what happens to nonJewish Israeli's in the Jewish state?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#87
Please, enough of this BS faux concern for non-Jews of Israel...	shira	Apr 2012	#88
shira your reply so full of false accusations that I can only come to the conclusion	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#94
Talk about avoiding the issues....	shira	Apr 2012	#97
and yet still more accusations and avoidance, Lebanon, Haneen Zoabi ......blame anyone else	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#103
Look, if you cared for Palestinian human rights, then I'd expect....	shira	Apr 2012	#107
ah so I do not meet your expectation by placing all the blame on Lebanon and Hamas	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#124
You don't criticize them at all for their abuse of Palestinians..	shira	Apr 2012	#129
still ranting because Arabs won't solve Israel's Palestinian problem I see	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#135
Az, you're the one who allegedly supports the poor Palestinians....	shira	Apr 2012	#168
shira that is why I support a Palestinian state you can point the finger and the blame all you want	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#171
this is one of the most perverted viewpoints i have read in my entire life......	pelsar	Apr 2012	#165
Perverted and antisemtic? how classy of you however polls have shown that half	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#166
Right Az, the Israelis always have the worst motives towards Palestinians...	shira	Apr 2012	#169
a bit of an exaggeration so now you accuse me of claiming the Israeli's are commiting genocide?	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#170
perverted it remains......expelling the arab israelis?	pelsar	Apr 2012	#172
pelsar it is you who called me antisemtic a few posts back and not for the first time either	azurnoir	Apr 2012	#173
I'm sure you're not going to get this	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#26
I get what yr trying to claim, but even if you'd said that it's still not antisemitism...	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#31
Is it really that difficult for you to reconcile that Israel IS NOT a signer to NPT???	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#21
?????	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#24
( 1) No, there are never enough ? I can fit in after reading your twisted understanding of	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#27
Retort	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#28
You should read with attention to the inspections ( lack of) in the poem.	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#29
I think you've just produced the first editorial for the new edition.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#106
I know	holdencaufield	Apr 2012	#125
k&r Thank you for posting oh brave one...+1 eom	Purveyor	Apr 2012	#15
Despite Israeli charges, Gunter Grass is not an anti-Semite	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#32
Says Yossi Gurvitz, who writes of Jewish Supremacism and Judeo-Nazis. n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#38
Clearly he's a Nazi! n/t	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#61
It means that people who sound just like David Duke do not get...	shira	Apr 2012	#64
Oh, I forgot. He's not only a Nazi, but a David Duke clone! How forgetful of me!	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#71
You wouldn't have a problem w/ anyone writing about Islamo-Nazis....	shira	Apr 2012	#81
About Yossi Gurvitz	oberliner	Apr 2012	#47
And the problem with that is?	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#60
This message was self-deleted by its author	Mosby	Apr 2012	#62
It means he went from one type of fanaticism to another. n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#63
Since when has being ultra-orthodox or atheist been fanatical?	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#70
Are you saying that all athiests are fanatics?	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#73
Intolerant Atheists who bash other religions are fanatical...	shira	Apr 2012	#80
Are you saying ALL athiests are intolerant?	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#90
Not necessarily	LeftishBrit	Apr 2012	#133
Try substituing the word "Muslim" for the word "Jew"	oberliner	Apr 2012	#66
Or Christian. So what?	Violet_Crumble	Apr 2012	#69
Even if that were the case, it would not equate to becoming a bigot against people of that faith	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#74
Not necessarily at all.	LeftishBrit	Apr 2012	#141
Antisemitism: who gets to decide?	oberliner	Apr 2012	#143
Just FYI. There are a HELL of a lot of posters on DU who were brought up in some religion	Crunchy Frog	Apr 2012	#175
I am not calling anyone a bigot	oberliner	Apr 2012	#176
The fact that he turned athiest is irrelevant	Ken Burch	Apr 2012	#72
What an excellent thing. Too bad all religionists can't free themselves.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#122
What about Muslims?	oberliner	Apr 2012	#130
It would be an excellent thing if all people freed themselves from faith-based religion.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#139
I would encourage you to spread that message across the Middle East	oberliner	Apr 2012	#144
The point is that your attempted character assassination on Yossi Gurvitz is irrelevant.	JackRiddler	Apr 2012	#147
No character assassination whatsoever	oberliner	Apr 2012	#154
Utter nonsense. n/t	ellisonz	Apr 2012	#112
Israel has reacted with hysteria over Gunter Grass	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#159
When Grass claims Israel is about to annihilate Iranians, that's hysteria. n/t	shira	Apr 2012	#160
You've helped to make his point and often in this thread. n/t	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#161
Small window of opportunity for a strike on Iran	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#162
wowzer. how tone deaf and callous do you have to be to post a poem on this	cali	Apr 2012	#163
Your opinion on Grass is dumber than dumb and how callous of you but thanks for the kick. n/t	Jefferson23	Apr 2012	#167
why honeypie	cali	Apr 2012	#174

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