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shira

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32. From Presbyterians for Middle East Peace: The True Agenda...End of Israel
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jun 2014

Events this winter reveal that these advocates are anything but Israel’s friends. The Israel Palestinian Mission Network (IPMN) and Presbyterian Peace Fellowship (PPF) have broadened their attacks on Israel with explicit challenges to Israel’s existence as the Jewish (Zionist) state it was created to be in 1947. These challenges are unambiguously rampant in the so-called “congregational study guide” created by IPMN called “Zionism Unsettled.” The materials in “Zionism Unsettled” argue that Zionism (a Jewish state) is inherently discriminatory, and that the very idea of a homeland for the Jewish people is illegitimate. The guide states that “The fundamental assumption of this study is that no exceptionalist claims can be justified in our interconnected, pluralistic world.” In other words, no nation can build its identity around religion, ethnicity or other category. The Irish, Armenians, Japanese or Czech’s may have a problem with the IPMN-PPF vision of a world with no nations rooted in religious or ethnic identity.

The BDS advocates go so far as to criticize Jewish prayer books around the world for including a prayer for the state of Israel. Of course, the same activists also want to eliminate from the new PCUSA hymnal the traditional category of hymns entitled “The Covenant with Israel.” They say the language embraces the oppression they claim Israel inflicts on others. Will the next step be to challenge “covenant with Israel” language in the Bible?

At the 2014 General Assembly we will see an onslaught of anti-Israel initiatives:

Boycotts against Israeli products

Divestment from three companies doing business with Israel and with the Palestinian Authority

Labeling of Israel an apartheid nation

In addition, there will be criticism of the new hymnal for using the phrase “God’s Covenant with Israel” to describe a few hymns, and attempts to deflect criticism of the outrageous study guide the IPMN is distributing through our denominational publishing house. Add all of these strategies together and it is 100% clear that the true agenda of IPMN, PPF, and the secular BDS movement is to undo what the world did in 1947 when the international community came together to recognize the newly created Israel as a Jewish homeland.

http://www.pfmep.org/addressing-the-issues/139-the-true-agenda-the-end-of-the-jewish-state-of-israel

'Mainstream Jewish groups' elleng Jun 2014 #1
Agreed..maybe that will evolve, ellen. I hope so too. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #2
That's to be expected when you let anti-Semitic fanatics hijack your agenda. Fozzledick Jun 2014 #3
Jeffrey Goldberg asks PCUSA.... shira Jun 2014 #4
FYI, the occupation is 47 years strong...and no end in sight. Goldberg is a tool for Bibi, yay Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #5
China & Turkey have occupied Tibet & Cyprus for many decades.... shira Jun 2014 #6
shira, nonsense...the documented record states otherwise. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #8
So to answer Goldberg, PCUSA doesn't divest from any other country. shira Jun 2014 #11
Uh huh...keep repeating whatever Goldberg has to say. Goldberg is a tool for Bibi, period. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Jun 2014 #54
That's because it's a Jewish reason for this and not an Israel reason, King_David Jun 2014 #7
Yea, it could not possibly be almost 50 years of occupation as the motivation..nah. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #9
That's nonsense , King_David Jun 2014 #10
You have a twisted notion of what strong equates to...keep those headphones on, real loud. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #16
We used to be weak King_David Jun 2014 #22
Jews were NEVER weak, and you don't speak for all Jews..try and remember that as you Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #23
Of course I don't speak for any Jews King_David Jun 2014 #25
You don't speak for all, try and remember that as you lay out your false opinions about Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #27
And yes we were weak King_David Jun 2014 #26
Disgusting...you don't even understand history. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #28
The Jewish nation has existed for Thousands of years King_David Jun 2014 #30
Jews were NEVER weak, that you continue to push this falsehood in order to blame Jews Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #34
If course most Jews do... King_David Jun 2014 #35
If course, most Jews do? What does that triangulation mean? Yes, you have family and or Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #36
omg 2banon Jun 2014 #37
Besides that strange reply King_David Jun 2014 #41
Nothing strange about the reply, it is appropriate given your alleged understanding of history. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #43
weak people do not survive for thousands of years azurnoir Jun 2014 #44
We changed in 1948 King_David Jun 2014 #45
Jews were never weak before 1948. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #47
Jews are no longer weak King_David Jun 2014 #48
Your grandparents?? You're blaiming your twisted views on them..interesting. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #49
Not MY twisted views, King_David Jun 2014 #50
FACT? No, this is most likely your fanatatical nationalism for Israeli policy that you blame Jews Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #51
Of course not King_David Jun 2014 #52
I speak for me. You should try it sometime. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #53
Actually a lot if you guys King_David Jun 2014 #56
You guys, what does that mean? You don't know me. I speak for myself. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #57
Of course I don't speak for all Jews King_David Jun 2014 #58
You find yourself at a loss to answer a question posed to you. You're the only self elected spokes Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #59
Wasn't talking about you individually King_David Jun 2014 #60
Grouping your complaints while addressing me gives that impression. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #61
Wrong impression I guess nt King_David Jun 2014 #62
please enumerate those different motivations that you attribute to DUers n/t azurnoir Jun 2014 #63
Nope. nt King_David Jun 2014 #70
why? this is hardly a first either azurnoir Jun 2014 #71
I was talking about some DU posters in IP King_David Jun 2014 #74
Link it, please. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #82
Link up somebody wanting to destroy the Jewish State? King_David Jun 2014 #84
Again, you make accussations about other DU members, when called on it you avoid and link Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #85
True I do support Israel . King_David Jun 2014 #86
No link to those you're accussing on DU? Policies are governmental, yes. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #87
Yes I believe the settlements were a huge mistake King_David Jun 2014 #89
They should leave all of the West Bank and East Jerusalem is the capital for the Palestinians. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #91
What kind of link do you want? King_David Jun 2014 #88
I don't know, you are the one accussing DU members, here: Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #90
Ok so here's one example for you a link King_David Jun 2014 #92
Ok, thanks for the link..he has his opinions. I appreciate it if someone is accussed, please Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #94
... azurnoir Jun 2014 #93
His answer was, nope. All he ever has in his arsenal. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #75
You edited your post after my reply. You see "we" and "us"? You use that language frequently. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #67
You do not speak for the USA or "the left" King_David Jun 2014 #68
The left did not protest Viet Nam, the left did not fight for civil rights?? Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #69
LOL King_David Jun 2014 #72
Can't answer the questions. You're quite predictable and I am still speaking for me, yep. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #73
Ok good so now we are getting somewhere King_David Jun 2014 #76
Still can't or won't answer the questions. Typical of you. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #77
It was a question about Vietnam ? nt King_David Jun 2014 #78
Still avoiding the conversation. You attempted to attribute a motive, an ulterior motive to people Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #80
do you mean Israel became a heavily armed and extremely militarized state ? azurnoir Jun 2014 #64
The kind of strength King_David Jun 2014 #79
Never again? what about Cambodia, Rwanda, Darfur .......... azurnoir Jun 2014 #81
I said Jews now know that because of Israel King_David Jun 2014 #83
you are aware that Cambodia happened 1975-1979 right? azurnoir Jun 2014 #95
I could be wrong, but I think he is saying, the world does not care about those countries deserving Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #96
I took it as mutial all around not caring azurnoir Jun 2014 #97
As I said it will never again happen to the Jewish King_David Jun 2014 #98
I'm calling you on you BS, king. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 #19
China's occupation of Tibet has been much longer than 50 years... shira Jun 2014 #12
PCUSA is divesting from Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard, and Motorola. azurnoir Jun 2014 #13
PCUSA is singularly focused on Israel & no other nation.... shira Jun 2014 #14
once again is PCUSA invested in American companies doing business with China's military azurnoir Jun 2014 #15
American companies do business w/ Turkey's military, so where's PCUSA? n/t shira Jun 2014 #18
Sounds like your answer is lost in the weeds as is usual. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 #21
I take it the answer about China is no, so about Turkey azurnoir Jun 2014 #38
Ah the broken hasbarista record skips back to the fly-tilla! R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 #20
Do you know any groups for BDS against Israel that target other countries for BDS? shira Jun 2014 #33
well ya look at your own question but I remember the same questions being asked about South Africa azurnoir Jun 2014 #40
Frankly I don't give a crap. This is I/P. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2014 #55
Fear of anti-semitism accusation did not stop Presbyterians from witnessing occupation Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #24
Jewish groups would be wise to understand why the Presbyterians took this step... BillZBubb Jun 2014 #29
They don't want to dismantle Israel huh? King_David Jun 2014 #31
From Presbyterians for Middle East Peace: The True Agenda...End of Israel shira Jun 2014 #32
PCUSA is trying to destroy Israel by divesting from American companies? that's an original approach azurnoir Jun 2014 #42
This fact continues to be ignored: Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #46
I've lost count of how many times I've seen any step taken to end the occupation of the West Bank azurnoir Jun 2014 #65
Any step, yes, any group..always an ulterior motive attached. Yay occupation! n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #66
I've been personally attempting to boycott Israeli food and other products/goods imported here.. 2banon Jun 2014 #39
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