Israel/Palestine

shira

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85. You thought wrong. And of course Gaza was ethnic cleansing...

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 06:14 AM

Apr 2014

Now you support the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza and the WB, do you not? Or does that not count as ethnic cleansing in your book?

Because if not, IHL disagrees with you:

Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949.
Deportations, transfers, evacuations
ARTICLE 49 [ Link ]

Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

http://www.icrc.org/ihl/WebART/380-600056

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Abbas signs international conventions; Kerry cancels visit [View all] bemildred Apr 2014 OP

OMG, YES!!! Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #1

Best case scenario, what happens as a result? Why so giddy about this? n/t shira Apr 2014 #16

Justice. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #17

Meaning....what precisely? n/t shira Apr 2014 #19

Are you sweating already? Interesting. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #20

LOL, nope! That's why I'm asking u what you're seeing here that I'm not.... shira Apr 2014 #22

Sure. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #23

So they're going to take Israel to court? Well Israel can take them to court too, so? shira Apr 2014 #24

Would you like a towel, perhaps? n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #25

LOL. n/t shira Apr 2014 #26

A few things, Shira... Scootaloo Apr 2014 #27

Heh. That's a small order for S and the rest. Better place a larger order, and while you're at it... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #30

Try again. There are no legally defined Palestinian territories or borders. shira Apr 2014 #51

I'm afraid you're terribly confused, Shira Scootaloo Apr 2014 #56

Claiming the '47 Partition lines are current legal borders is delusional. n/t shira Apr 2014 #59

I had my fingers crossed and he did it azurnoir Apr 2014 #35

You had more faith in him that I did, azurnoir. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #38

Kerry-Abbas Visit Canceled as Mideast Talks Falter Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #2

USA and Israel: "Hey! That'st not fair! We aren't done exploiting your ass for decades!" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #31

Mahmoud Abbas Target #3 Among 122 World Leaders on NSA Target List bemildred Apr 2014 #3

Gee, It's as if we just don't trust him. Fozzledick Apr 2014 #4

You meant to say, like Pollard. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #6

No Fozzledick Apr 2014 #8

For you it is hard, I get that. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #10

If that's the logic, then Bibi is #2? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #12

I'll be damned, but I should not be surprised. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #5

Kind of weird in my view. bemildred Apr 2014 #7

They look at everyone, which is stupid..but it's his rank that cracks me up. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #11

Or maybe they were trying to find out if he was going to do this? bemildred Apr 2014 #39

How long has it been since the Snowden revelations? Certainly long enough for any country/leader Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #40

We have already had head spooks saying "We've gone blind", and I figure that happened by last Fall. bemildred Apr 2014 #42

My bias showing about Abbas, I imagine one or two voices helped him find his courage. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #44

Palestinian President Abbas pushes statehood recognition bemildred Apr 2014 #9

I like the way Abbas spells out, I met with Kerry 39 times, lol. In case no one Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #13

Thanks it's good news azurnoir Apr 2014 #14

How is this good? Abbas is rejecting peace talks. What's he going to get thru the UN? n/t shira Apr 2014 #18

You're wrong again. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #28

But what's the UN going to do? Or Int'l Courts? The UN and the Courts can't kick the Turks.... shira Apr 2014 #53

That's a good question Scootaloo Apr 2014 #57

"What's he going to get thru the UN?" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #32

Israel rejected the talks-US: No Palestinian prisoner release is violation of terms of talks azurnoir Apr 2014 #34

Erekat admitted Abbas was staying in talks only until 4th batch of prisoners released.... shira Apr 2014 #69

your article is dated 03/09/2014 the month ended with no prisoner release end of that story azurnoir Apr 2014 #70

Israel had good reason 2 believe talks would end as soon as 4th batch of prisoners was released. shira Apr 2014 #71

still trying to makes excuses Israel reneging on the deal ? azurnoir Apr 2014 #72

I knew you'd defend Abbas staying on just long enuff for prisoner releases. n/t shira Apr 2014 #73

What are you talking about? That doesn't even make sense azurnoir Apr 2014 #74

Abbas said he'd negotiate only until the 4th prisoner release. You're defending that. n/t shira Apr 2014 #75

again what are you talking about? n/t azurnoir Apr 2014 #76

Let's start slow. Erekat claimed Abbas wanted to negotiate just long enuff.... shira Apr 2014 #77

your article is dated 3/9/2014 well before any conclusions were reached azurnoir Apr 2014 #80

So you're denying reality. Okay. No point continuing with fantasies. n/t shira Apr 2014 #83

Nope not at all simply pointing out the ridiculous tactics used in your article azurnoir Apr 2014 #106

I'm guessing that you are overdue for another R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #108

Haaretz: Why Palestine is heading back to UN Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #15

further: Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #21

I have to disagree that instigating "chaos" is unlikely. It borders on SOP. bemildred Apr 2014 #41

I think it will be tempered, but agree it will happen. After OCL, and even with the Goldstone Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #43

Wow. Did he finally grow a pair? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #29

He sounds annoyed. bemildred Apr 2014 #33

Kerry’s desperate Pollard gamble could cost him the entire Israeli-Palestinian ball game bemildred Apr 2014 #36

Is Pollard really that much of a 'plum'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #52

As I have heard it, he is eligible for parole next year, on a life sentence. bemildred Apr 2014 #54

Ah, parole... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #55

Bad Move on Jonathan Pollard bemildred Apr 2014 #37

PLO submits applications to join 15 international bodies Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #45

ROTFLOL! Love, just LOVE #5 & #11. Let's pause and consider the irony. Maybe... shira Apr 2014 #49

sort of like how the Israeli government created a Jew free Gaza... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #78

Says the guy who supports ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza & W.B. n/t shira Apr 2014 #79

Well, the government of Israel supported the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #81

You guys screech about ethnic cleansing constantly. It's about your hypocrisy. n/t shira Apr 2014 #82

I thought it was about your inability shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #84

You thought wrong. And of course Gaza was ethnic cleansing... shira Apr 2014 #85

So Israel is guilty of ethnic cleansing of Jews? shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #86

That one is a stunner, isn't it? bemildred Apr 2014 #87

Its a bit like leading a horse... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #93

It would be nice if you answered me. You ask I answer. I ask, you answer.... shira Apr 2014 #88

I support the removal of the settlements... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #92

The Palestine Mandate gives Jews the right to settle anywhere west of Jordan's borders shira Apr 2014 #94

The problem that you have... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #95

Thus the need for continued negotiations and a permanent agreement. Until then.... shira Apr 2014 #96

I dare say... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #103

Kontorovich didn't use the Australians as example. Just Puerto Rico, Gibraltar, Falklands, etc... shira Apr 2014 #105

Like I said... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #112

So now you are an advocate of international law...Now...when it pleases you? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #97

It helps to know something about International Law, and you don't have the foggiest idea. n/t shira Apr 2014 #100

I guess it doesn't help you to embrace some things R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #107

I see another conservative opinion, he received the Bator Award from the Federalist Society. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #104

Only if .... Israeli Apr 2014 #89

That was a case of legal ethnic cleansing. I supported the Gaza withdrawal and still do. n/t shira Apr 2014 #90

By your own words you support ethnic cleansing. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #98

Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #101

Removing illegal occupiers is not ethnic cleansing, you poor soul. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #109

so you're ok with jews living in palestine? Mosby Apr 2014 #110

I'll go on record that any illegal Israeli settler needs to be removed R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #111

For 99% of settlers that is simply not the case... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #113

snip*A senior Palestinian official said the Palestinians Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #46

Arab ministers to meet April 9 on Israel-Palestinian talks Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #47

The US as a fair broker: Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #48

So far it seems to be stunned outrage and Tiger Teams. bemildred Apr 2014 #50

Yea, up now, The Wrath of Kerry...won't be pretty. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #58

That one line sums it up quite well azurnoir Apr 2014 #60

The reasoning is that the PA will in no way reform itself to keep Int'l Law.... shira Apr 2014 #61

The ICC is supposed to be a political weapon, that's why it exists. bemildred Apr 2014 #62

They ain't got much to threaten Israel with at the ICC. They'll get some headlines.... shira Apr 2014 #67

Bullshit rules the world, Shira, that's why people fight over it. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #68

The proof that you're right is that there's lots of bullshit on this I/P forum. n/t shira Apr 2014 #91

Take a bow for that any time you like, friend. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #99

Frustrated Kerry urges leadership from Abbas, Israel PM Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #63

Palestinians describe hostile meeting with Israelis, Kerry says talks at 'critical' stage Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #64

No surprise: House warns Palestinian aid may be cut Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #65

Everybody is in full threat mode. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #66

Analysis: Kerry's looming deadline and the peace process industry Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #102