Israel/Palestine

R. Daneel Olivaw

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31. USA and Israel: "Hey! That'st not fair! We aren't done exploiting your ass for decades!"

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Tue Apr 1, 2014, 11:15 PM

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Abbas signs international conventions; Kerry cancels visit [View all] bemildred Apr 2014 OP

OMG, YES!!! Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #1

Best case scenario, what happens as a result? Why so giddy about this? n/t shira Apr 2014 #16

Justice. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #17

Meaning....what precisely? n/t shira Apr 2014 #19

Are you sweating already? Interesting. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #20

LOL, nope! That's why I'm asking u what you're seeing here that I'm not.... shira Apr 2014 #22

Sure. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #23

So they're going to take Israel to court? Well Israel can take them to court too, so? shira Apr 2014 #24

Would you like a towel, perhaps? n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #25

LOL. n/t shira Apr 2014 #26

A few things, Shira... Scootaloo Apr 2014 #27

Heh. That's a small order for S and the rest. Better place a larger order, and while you're at it... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #30

Try again. There are no legally defined Palestinian territories or borders. shira Apr 2014 #51

I'm afraid you're terribly confused, Shira Scootaloo Apr 2014 #56

Claiming the '47 Partition lines are current legal borders is delusional. n/t shira Apr 2014 #59

I had my fingers crossed and he did it azurnoir Apr 2014 #35

You had more faith in him that I did, azurnoir. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #38

Kerry-Abbas Visit Canceled as Mideast Talks Falter Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #2

USA and Israel: "Hey! That'st not fair! We aren't done exploiting your ass for decades!" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #31

Mahmoud Abbas Target #3 Among 122 World Leaders on NSA Target List bemildred Apr 2014 #3

Gee, It's as if we just don't trust him. Fozzledick Apr 2014 #4

You meant to say, like Pollard. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #6

No Fozzledick Apr 2014 #8

For you it is hard, I get that. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #10

If that's the logic, then Bibi is #2? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #12

I'll be damned, but I should not be surprised. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #5

Kind of weird in my view. bemildred Apr 2014 #7

They look at everyone, which is stupid..but it's his rank that cracks me up. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #11

Or maybe they were trying to find out if he was going to do this? bemildred Apr 2014 #39

How long has it been since the Snowden revelations? Certainly long enough for any country/leader Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #40

We have already had head spooks saying "We've gone blind", and I figure that happened by last Fall. bemildred Apr 2014 #42

My bias showing about Abbas, I imagine one or two voices helped him find his courage. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #44

Palestinian President Abbas pushes statehood recognition bemildred Apr 2014 #9

I like the way Abbas spells out, I met with Kerry 39 times, lol. In case no one Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #13

Thanks it's good news azurnoir Apr 2014 #14

How is this good? Abbas is rejecting peace talks. What's he going to get thru the UN? n/t shira Apr 2014 #18

You're wrong again. Scootaloo Apr 2014 #28

But what's the UN going to do? Or Int'l Courts? The UN and the Courts can't kick the Turks.... shira Apr 2014 #53

That's a good question Scootaloo Apr 2014 #57

"What's he going to get thru the UN?" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #32

Israel rejected the talks-US: No Palestinian prisoner release is violation of terms of talks azurnoir Apr 2014 #34

Erekat admitted Abbas was staying in talks only until 4th batch of prisoners released.... shira Apr 2014 #69

your article is dated 03/09/2014 the month ended with no prisoner release end of that story azurnoir Apr 2014 #70

Israel had good reason 2 believe talks would end as soon as 4th batch of prisoners was released. shira Apr 2014 #71

still trying to makes excuses Israel reneging on the deal ? azurnoir Apr 2014 #72

I knew you'd defend Abbas staying on just long enuff for prisoner releases. n/t shira Apr 2014 #73

What are you talking about? That doesn't even make sense azurnoir Apr 2014 #74

Abbas said he'd negotiate only until the 4th prisoner release. You're defending that. n/t shira Apr 2014 #75

again what are you talking about? n/t azurnoir Apr 2014 #76

Let's start slow. Erekat claimed Abbas wanted to negotiate just long enuff.... shira Apr 2014 #77

your article is dated 3/9/2014 well before any conclusions were reached azurnoir Apr 2014 #80

So you're denying reality. Okay. No point continuing with fantasies. n/t shira Apr 2014 #83

Nope not at all simply pointing out the ridiculous tactics used in your article azurnoir Apr 2014 #106

I'm guessing that you are overdue for another R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #108

Haaretz: Why Palestine is heading back to UN Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #15

further: Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #21

I have to disagree that instigating "chaos" is unlikely. It borders on SOP. bemildred Apr 2014 #41

I think it will be tempered, but agree it will happen. After OCL, and even with the Goldstone Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #43

Wow. Did he finally grow a pair? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #29

He sounds annoyed. bemildred Apr 2014 #33

Kerry’s desperate Pollard gamble could cost him the entire Israeli-Palestinian ball game bemildred Apr 2014 #36

Is Pollard really that much of a 'plum'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #52

As I have heard it, he is eligible for parole next year, on a life sentence. bemildred Apr 2014 #54

Ah, parole... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #55

Bad Move on Jonathan Pollard bemildred Apr 2014 #37

PLO submits applications to join 15 international bodies Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #45

ROTFLOL! Love, just LOVE #5 & #11. Let's pause and consider the irony. Maybe... shira Apr 2014 #49

sort of like how the Israeli government created a Jew free Gaza... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #78

Says the guy who supports ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza & W.B. n/t shira Apr 2014 #79

Well, the government of Israel supported the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #81

You guys screech about ethnic cleansing constantly. It's about your hypocrisy. n/t shira Apr 2014 #82

I thought it was about your inability shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #84

You thought wrong. And of course Gaza was ethnic cleansing... shira Apr 2014 #85

So Israel is guilty of ethnic cleansing of Jews? shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #86

That one is a stunner, isn't it? bemildred Apr 2014 #87

Its a bit like leading a horse... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #93

It would be nice if you answered me. You ask I answer. I ask, you answer.... shira Apr 2014 #88

I support the removal of the settlements... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #92

The Palestine Mandate gives Jews the right to settle anywhere west of Jordan's borders shira Apr 2014 #94

The problem that you have... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #95

Thus the need for continued negotiations and a permanent agreement. Until then.... shira Apr 2014 #96

I dare say... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #103

Kontorovich didn't use the Australians as example. Just Puerto Rico, Gibraltar, Falklands, etc... shira Apr 2014 #105

Like I said... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #112

So now you are an advocate of international law...Now...when it pleases you? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #97

It helps to know something about International Law, and you don't have the foggiest idea. n/t shira Apr 2014 #100

I guess it doesn't help you to embrace some things R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #107

I see another conservative opinion, he received the Bator Award from the Federalist Society. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #104

Only if .... Israeli Apr 2014 #89

That was a case of legal ethnic cleansing. I supported the Gaza withdrawal and still do. n/t shira Apr 2014 #90

By your own words you support ethnic cleansing. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #98

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Removing illegal occupiers is not ethnic cleansing, you poor soul. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #109

so you're ok with jews living in palestine? Mosby Apr 2014 #110

I'll go on record that any illegal Israeli settler needs to be removed R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #111

For 99% of settlers that is simply not the case... shaayecanaan Apr 2014 #113

snip*A senior Palestinian official said the Palestinians Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #46

Arab ministers to meet April 9 on Israel-Palestinian talks Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #47

The US as a fair broker: Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #48

So far it seems to be stunned outrage and Tiger Teams. bemildred Apr 2014 #50

Yea, up now, The Wrath of Kerry...won't be pretty. Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #58

That one line sums it up quite well azurnoir Apr 2014 #60

The reasoning is that the PA will in no way reform itself to keep Int'l Law.... shira Apr 2014 #61

The ICC is supposed to be a political weapon, that's why it exists. bemildred Apr 2014 #62

They ain't got much to threaten Israel with at the ICC. They'll get some headlines.... shira Apr 2014 #67

Bullshit rules the world, Shira, that's why people fight over it. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #68

The proof that you're right is that there's lots of bullshit on this I/P forum. n/t shira Apr 2014 #91

Take a bow for that any time you like, friend. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #99

Frustrated Kerry urges leadership from Abbas, Israel PM Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #63

Palestinians describe hostile meeting with Israelis, Kerry says talks at 'critical' stage Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #64

No surprise: House warns Palestinian aid may be cut Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #65

Everybody is in full threat mode. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #66

Analysis: Kerry's looming deadline and the peace process industry Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #102