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Settlers uproot 30 trees near Yatta [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 OP

This sounds like the range wars in western US TexasProgresive Mar 2014 #1

Here's one demostrably false lie from the Ma'an article: shira Mar 2014 #2

We will know you by your works, Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #3

Reading comprehension, what is it? Fozzledick Mar 2014 #13

"Reading comprehension, what is it?" Not your Forte apparently. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #23

Doubling down doesn't make it true Fozzledick Mar 2014 #29

"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its >>>own civilian population<<< R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #31

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"too dumb to know it" R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #33

State assisted construction... Shaktimaan Mar 2014 #40

I didn't know that... shira Mar 2014 #46

Wait - maybe I'm not understanding. When Hamas or Hezbollah go to war vs. Israel.... shira Mar 2014 #49

Of course. Shaktimaan Mar 2014 #52

Geneva's Forced deportations was meant to directly address evil like Germany.... shira Mar 2014 #15

yes the US use it's veto in Israel's favor just as Russia has used it's veto azurnoir Mar 2014 #4

I'm surprised that some wish to regurgitate the "There is no law" nonsense over and over R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #5

what the US actually did was to stand in the way of sanctions not legalize the settlements azurnoir Mar 2014 #6

There would've been no need for the UN to vote on making settlements illegal... shira Mar 2014 #19

Certainly there is, shira. The 4th Geneva convention is extremely clear on that. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #24

You're ignoring Geneva Article 2 - b/w 2 high contracting (sovereign) powers shira Mar 2014 #34

And we have another Shira Fail. Did we expect less? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #39

So you just ignore Article 2, pretending it doesn't exist. Nice. shira Mar 2014 #43

How many times does one get to post bold faced lies before I bring it to MIRT? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #7

there are unfortunately no rules against doing that azurnoir Mar 2014 #8

Actually... R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #9

unfortunately in the I/P situation what is considered the truth is apparently subjective azurnoir Mar 2014 #10

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I know and I'm sorry azurnoir Mar 2014 #12

Pure Machiavellianism. Fozzledick Mar 2014 #14

Orwellian, isn't it? Looks like someone is looking for ANY excuse.... shira Mar 2014 #16

Exactly true in this case, King_David Mar 2014 #21

No. I have proven that some will lie with impunity. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #25

Not at all, I just agree that you are the worst offender. Fozzledick Mar 2014 #27

Yep. King_David Mar 2014 #28

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Hilarious. And yet pathetic. Thanks for the link. n/t shira Mar 2014 #35

I don't engage, King_David Mar 2014 #38

Why is that question being asked I wonder ? King_David Mar 2014 #20

You tell me. Why is Art 7 on the Convention of the Rights of a Child a lie? shira Mar 2014 #17

See #15. Read it and weep. Geneva 49 doesn't apply in the case of settlements. n/t shira Mar 2014 #18

Since you are unwilling to post to article 49 I will. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2014 #22

The relevant parts to Geneva 49 are based on Geneva 2 shira Mar 2014 #36

what you've stated is that because the Palestinians are stateless Israel is free to do as it wishes azurnoir Mar 2014 #41

I stated that Geneva 49 doesn't apply in the case of disputed non-sovereign land. shira Mar 2014 #44

but Geneva 49 does not give Israel the right to expell the existing population of that land azurnoir Mar 2014 #47

Please provide an example and the specific part of Geneva that would apply. n/t shira Mar 2014 #50

I already did you claimed that it did not apply to Palestinians azurnoir Mar 2014 #54

actually there is more than that azurnoir Mar 2014 #26

Again, Geneva Art. 2 proves u wrong. I've posted it 3X in this thread. Read it. n/t shira Mar 2014 #37

That would be true except on November 29 2012 the UNGA recognized Palestine azurnoir Mar 2014 #42

Oh? So now Palestine is a sovereign high-contracting country? n/t shira Mar 2014 #45

Israel still does not have the right to expell the existing population or transfer it own citizens azurnoir Mar 2014 #48

Right. Shaktimaan Mar 2014 #51

Israel transfers prisoners outside of the OPT regularly to prisons in Israel azurnoir Mar 2014 #53

right Shaktimaan Mar 2014 #55

still and none the less allowing it's citizens to set up shop on land not part of sovereign Israel azurnoir Mar 2014 #56

actually Shaktimaan Mar 2014 #57

in any of the issues I counted here there is no one incident but rather a repeated pattern azurnoir Mar 2014 #62

Here's the text of the resolution the US vetoed. It was reaffirming the illegality of settlements... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #58

Thanks - can u point me to the exact International Law declaring settlements illegal? n/t shira Mar 2014 #59

It's Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention... Violet_Crumble Mar 2014 #60

Okay, thanks. I obviously disagree.... shira Mar 2014 #61