Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Palestinian Villages May Soon Go Dark: Israeli Government To Remove Solar Panels And Wind Turbines [View all]holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)"Are you seriously arguing that Israel can only survive if it gets to use its bureaucracy to keep Area C from getting solar panels? "
-- I think you must be reading something different from what everyone else is posting. I've read nothing to suggest that anyone was saying that except you. Let me put this simply...no carbon-based life form in the galaxy suggests that solar panels are an existential threat to Israel (or the Palestinians for that matter). What has been said, by myself and others is... the EU donors deliberately installed the panel illegally, knowing they would be threatened with removal, so they could create the exact scenario that you seem to be bothered about -- "Look at the big bad Israelis -- taking electricity away from poor Palestinians (cue sinister music)(fade to black).
"...it's not as though the Palestinians would have been glad to not have a state if only "the other Arabs" hadn't interfered."
-- Actually, it's EXACTLY the opposite. The Palestinians would have accepted the UN Partition of '47 if their neighbours, the Arab League, hadn't outright rejected that offer on their behalf. If not for the manipulations of the Arab League, the Palestinians would today have a bigger state than they can ever hope for in the future and would have avoided being the cannon fodder in five different wars. The Palestinians were never even give a choice for a state by their "brothers". Now, decades later, they can still have their state, they just need to work with Israel instead of hoping for the empty promises that are a legacy of their Arab League domination.