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Scootaloo

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48. Well, no, you are. Go back and read the posts, Shira
Mon Oct 21, 2013, 04:39 PM
Oct 2013

You're basically arguing that people who endorse or cite fuck-knuckles are themselves fuck-knuckles... except for yourself.

You judge people as being outright nazis because they belong to some organization that has a connection to FreeGaza, because of Greta Berlin misposting a video to the wrong group. Because they are within seven degrees of Greta Berlin, they are as bad as any crematoria-operating Reich fuck, according to you.

However, you directly cite the work of Caroline Glick (and demand others "admit she's right&quot and Nahum Shahaf. You lavish praise upon the "scholarship" of Richard Landes, which is sort of like admiring the "research" of Jerome Corsi. Your regular sources of information here are far-right neoconservative blogs like Gatestone Institute. But you, oh, you don't get tarred by the brush of the fuck-knuckles you associate with, becuase, uh, uhm, er, uh, hmm, that is, uh, because!

If you want to play with guilt-by-association, you have to realize that others will expect you to be internally consistent. That is, you are absolutely no different from the likes of Glick, Shahaf, or even John Motherfucking Bolton, because you hold them close, and believe that people should be judged by such associations. If you [o]don't want to be judged by those associations - and it seems that you don't - then you need to stop holding others to that standard. Consistency, that's all.

Which brings us to the point you try to make here. Yes, if prompted, you will sometimes lob out a criticism. I don't believe I've ever seen you do so unprompted, though. Okay, that's fine, really - you're not a dancing monkey, either, right? However, I don't think i've seen you maintain consistency even when prompted. Like on the subject of settlements. if asked, you will say that you believe settlements are a problem and an impediment to two states... but, left to your own devices, you argue that htye are an integral and unquestionable part of Israel, that critics of them want a "judenrein" even that Palestinians have no intrinsic rights to the West Bank. I'm really not sure what the conflict in your head is, which is the "Real" you, or even if they're both your rela positions and you just forget shit easily... but after all this time, forgive me if I just presume that what you say unprompted is what you really believe, and what you're prompted to say is just a fig leaf to cover for your actual beliefs.

Typical BS from Jonathan Cook oberliner Oct 2013 #1
Awesome. polly7 Oct 2013 #2
It's not only the messenger ... King_David Oct 2013 #3
Well, Oberliner has a point... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #7
It's a slight varient of the "thankyou for smoking" method of debate azurnoir Oct 2013 #16
Well, it's either that or the gish gallop... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #17
I think I like that one better Gish Gallop azurnoir Oct 2013 #18
Indeed! +1 eom Purveyor Oct 2013 #37
That's been happening quite a bit too often. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #91
Lying propagandist & bigot Jonathan Cook; fan & supporter of Gilad Atzmon.... shira Oct 2013 #4
i just finished reading some articles from these two madrchsod Oct 2013 #8
Atzmon is fucking nuts Scootaloo Oct 2013 #15
Jonathan Cook is a fan of his, as are Richard Falk, John Mearsheimer, Greta Berlin, etc... shira Oct 2013 #22
More demands to "admit" something? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #25
I can call out and condemn the likes of Caroline Glick for her absurd, bigoted views.... shira Oct 2013 #27
And then demand people "admit she's right" Scootaloo Oct 2013 #29
Atzmon is easy to condemn. You don't get bonus points for that. shira Oct 2013 #47
Well, except I already have Scootaloo Oct 2013 #49
So let's take Tony Greenstein shira Oct 2013 #51
What are you claiming? Joanthan Cook wrote of "Jewish persecution of Hitler". Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #9
No, Jonathan Cook is a fan of Gilad Atzmon, and Atzmon writes about Jews/Hitler.... shira Oct 2013 #10
Uh huh, Hurry Up Harry's Place analysis..ok. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #12
From a fan of Richard Landes and Caroline Glick, no less... n/t Scootaloo Oct 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author shira Oct 2013 #21
Another lie. And from a fan of gutter trash like Tony Greenstein no less. n/t shira Oct 2013 #23
Except it's perfectly true Scootaloo Oct 2013 #24
Big difference b/w us.... shira Oct 2013 #26
Well, at least you can admit being a hypocrite Scootaloo Oct 2013 #28
But I'm not. I'll condemn/criticize anything if simply asked. I don't mind being questioned.... shira Oct 2013 #46
Well, no, you are. Go back and read the posts, Shira Scootaloo Oct 2013 #48
But I don't generally agree with Glick's views on I/P. You guys tend to march in lock-step.... shira Oct 2013 #50
Please share your knowledge with me, Oberliner. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #5
I'm glad somebody asked oberliner Oct 2013 #11
And you know those are lies because......? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #13
three other sources on this problem madrchsod Oct 2013 #6
The source of the problem is the parasite that is totally consuming Palestine. delrem Oct 2013 #19
"Gongylonema pulchruma," ? King_David Oct 2013 #31
every picture tells a story polly7..... Israeli Oct 2013 #20
Thank you azurnoir Oct 2013 #30
I wouldn't describe those simple illustrations as maps azurnoir Israeli Oct 2013 #34
Yea if you posting an accurate picture sure . King_David Oct 2013 #32
Well, dave, to now debunk your crap... R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #33
Some choice quotes and real 'mature' debating technique from R. Daneel Olivaw on this thread alone . King_David Oct 2013 #38
And again dave runs while validating my post. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #45
Why do u think Israel accepts Jews of all types? Explain to us the reason. n/t shira Oct 2013 #52
I'm more concerned with why Israel pushes out Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #53
Yeas a lot of people are obsessed with IP King_David Oct 2013 #54
Well, dave, I guess that you must mean Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #56
Shira has a reason, King_David Oct 2013 #61
Reason? She aparently now admits that the ethnic cleansing of 700,000 Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #63
Yep it is all about motivation, King_David Oct 2013 #65
You guys are really phoning it in tonight with the excuses. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #68
Most uninvolved non Jewish Non Muslim 'activists' King_David Oct 2013 #69
This is I/P, dave. Perhaps you don't understand that. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #71
Diversion. You guys never answer the simplest questions. nt shira Oct 2013 #55
Tell us again how you agree with benny Morris and his views on ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #57
So b/w ethnic cleansing or genocide, you prefer that the Jews be wiped out.... shira Oct 2013 #58
Don't change the subject to fly from your own hypocrisy. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #59
Between the annihilation of the Jews and having to ethnically cleanse Palestinians.... shira Oct 2013 #60
I'm sure all despots and their bootlickers would agree with you. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #62
2 choices back then, and only 2.... shira Oct 2013 #64
And you come back with the plied old excuse of wife beaters and violators everywhere. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #66
It means so much being chided by someone who prefers that the Jews be annihilated back then... shira Oct 2013 #67
And the Godwin raises it's frightful head...with the veneer of shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #70
"The Zionists were the villains in this particular act". Okay, so what should they have done? shira Oct 2013 #72
So your saying the British along with the US azurnoir Oct 2013 #73
The Brits and US have allowed recent Syrian and Sudanese massacres/genocide.... shira Oct 2013 #74
so you think the US along with the West would allow a genocide against Israeli Jews right now? azurnoir Oct 2013 #75
You asked me about 2 Holocausts within a decade back in the 40's. My answer was yes. NT shira Oct 2013 #76
yes but then you pointed out 'genocides' the US is allowing right now as your answer azurnoir Oct 2013 #77
Now? Nope. But back then, sure. n/t shira Oct 2013 #79
I believe that what you have written is deceptive. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #90
Perhaps they should not have expelled 700,000 Palestinians for starters. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #78
You're telling me what they shouldn't have done. I'm asking u what should they have done instead. shira Oct 2013 #80
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #81
Can't handle a real question, can you? shira Oct 2013 #82
Apparently you can't handle a real answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #83
So what should the Jews of 1947-48 have done against their Palestinian enemies under al-Husseini? shira Oct 2013 #84
"Morris didn't >>>write<<< about Jews expelling 700,000 Palestinians. " R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #85
He said there was no choice but to expel them. That the choice was that or another Jewish genocide. shira Oct 2013 #86
"He said there was no choice but to expel them." 700,000? R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #87
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #88
Most war refugees "choose to leave" when the alternative is death. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #89
Is that a slip? Shaktimaan Nov 2013 #92
where today right now is concerned the map is accurate it's how it's labeled for 1946-1967 azurnoir Oct 2013 #36
From 1949-1967 the West Bank and Gaza were occupied by Jordan and Egypt oberliner Oct 2013 #35
probably to simplify things oberliner.... Israeli Oct 2013 #39
well, I bet those posters will go over with a big laugh. sheeeee. delrem Oct 2013 #40
That's the analysis we have come to expect from you nt King_David Oct 2013 #44
But it's a lie oberliner Oct 2013 #41
how about this one ? Israeli Oct 2013 #42
No problem there oberliner Oct 2013 #43
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