Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Why Liberal Zionists Won't Join BDS [View all]Violet_Crumble
(35,980 posts)What yr missing is that there's no agreement amongst people on what defines Zionism, so it's absolutely silly to be huffing and puffing away when you wouldn't even agree on what zionism is.
There are Zionists, quite a lot in fact, who do believe that Israel should have most, if not all of the West Bank. Many more Zionists don't tend to give a shit what happens to the Palestinians, just as long as Israel gets 'peace' and 'security' and all that lovely sounding stuff. And then there are Zionists, fewer in number, who do honestly believe in a fair two-state solution where both Israelis and Palestinians live in peace in their own independent states. Those Zionists also oppose the Occupation and are opposed to the settlements. The problem arises when Zionists who fall into the first two categories turn around and accuse the latter type of being anti-Zionists.
So, what does and doesn't define Zionism is pretty much in the eye of the beholder. Therefore I've decided that anyone who doesn't agree with my views on what is and isn't Zionism is a bigot, as per the dictionary definition.
My suggestion would be to stop calling other DUers bigots and antisemites. It cheapens any attempts at debate you make, imo...