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Israel/Palestine

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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:49 PM Jan 2013

Palestinians: Apartheid State If Netanyahu Wins [View all]

6:02p.m. EST January 18, 2013

RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — The Palestinians have long complained that Israel's right-wing government is killing peace prospects by settling the West Bank with Jews, but now there is something new. The Palestinian president is warning that Benjamin Netanyahu's expected victory in next week's election could lead to an Arab-majority country in the Holy Land that will eventually replace what is now Israel — unless he pursues a more moderate path of a two state solution to the conflict.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has been careful not to intervene in Tuesday's Israeli election, but it is no secret that the Palestinians hope that Netanyahu will either be ousted or at least soften his position in a new term. He has shown no sign of doing so, and opinion polls showing hard-line, pro-settlement parties well ahead days before the vote have led to a sense of despair among the Palestinians.

During Netanyahu's current term, the Israeli leader has pressed forward with construction of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, which Israel captured from Jordan in 1967, along with the Gaza Strip. Abbas says he wants to set up a state in the territories that would exist peacefully next to Israel.

The international community considers settlement construction illegal or illegitimate. And the Palestinians have refused to negotiate with Netanyahu while he continues to allow settlements to be built, saying it is a sign of bad faith.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/01/18/palestinians-apartheid-netanyahu/1846501/

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The PLO isn't interested in 2 states. Simply put, they will not recognize a Jewish state.... shira Jan 2013 #1
Israel isn't interested in 2 states. Simply put, they will not recognize Palestinian state... delrem Jan 2013 #2
"Simply put" LOL! aquart Jan 2013 #4
"Simply put" LOL! delrem Jan 2013 #5
Israel agreed to the Clinton Parameters in 2000-01. The Palestinians rejected them. shira Jan 2013 #11
And Netanyahu ended it all. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #45
I think its about 50% shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #50
And the anti-hasbardos demand that the Palestinians reject any Israeli offer oberliner Jan 2013 #58
You nailed it! They'd rather see the refugees die than the PLO accept a reasonable offer. n/t shira Jan 2013 #62
I'm still sort of stunned that Abbas came out and said that oberliner Jan 2013 #76
The anti-hasbarados can't spin that and they'll keep pretending he never said it... shira Jan 2013 #78
"and they'll keep pretending he never said it..." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #98
No one has spun it in any direction, have they, oberliner? Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #91
That is absolutely false... shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #93
It is categorically and demonstrably true oberliner Jan 2013 #94
Are you alleging that the Palestine Papers are fake? shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #95
You're citing Jonathan Cook (fan of the neo-nazi Gilad Atzmon) WRT a 2001 video... shira Jan 2013 #55
I'm not sure how you can keep spinning fiction and believe R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #87
Yup. aquart Jan 2013 #3
Yeah, most people don't give up their rights Scootaloo Jan 2013 #8
Which Right? RoR? There is no such right. And neither the PLO or Hamas has the right.... shira Jan 2013 #10
LEGAL ASPECTS OF THE RIGHT TO RETURN Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #12
UNGA resolutions are non-binding recommendations. Got anything else? shira Jan 2013 #16
Got anything else?? You'd first need to accomplish some line of legal consensus. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #28
There are 2 things you missed from my last post to you.... shira Jan 2013 #29
Not International law, eh? You not only do not read, you do not comprehend. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #36
The European Court of Human Rights ruled that RoR is bogus.... shira Jan 2013 #37
You're for real, that's the sad thing here..you still haven't read your own OP. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #40
LOL. There must be different International Law for Europe... shira Jan 2013 #41
The OPINION you posted states that...and you do not recall that or do you Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #42
Huh? I'm pointing to the European Court on HR recent judgment.... shira Jan 2013 #43
No, don't walk away from your LOL now..tell me why you do not explain Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #44
"Under international law." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #46
Does International Law apply to the Cyprus situation? Yes or No? shira Jan 2013 #57
That's a rather narrow brush question for such a multi-part answer. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #88
I only used the OP to point to the case. I have no idea why International Law.... shira Jan 2013 #54
You have no idea what you're talking about period..your choice Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #59
You've been playing games & deflecting for many posts now... shira Jan 2013 #61
Deflect from what? Your OP, that you have no clue as say what he means but you posted it regardless. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #64
You're deflecting from the ECHR decision against Greek Cypriot RoR. shira Jan 2013 #65
I've done no such thing. How is it applicable to Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #66
The ruling goes to show there is no such thing as absolute, unqualified RoR. shira Jan 2013 #68
Holy shit, you write this with delusions of grandure. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #70
The Greeks weren't the aggressor when the Turks invaded Cyprus & ethnically cleansed them shira Jan 2013 #73
The Palestinians were the aggressor,you know that to be false. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #75
They started a civil war months prior to the big war in 1948 shira Jan 2013 #77
Logic and reasoning per shira and your revisionist history lessons you spew Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #89
Your constant editing..your OP does not explain nor do you Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #67
You misunderstand. The ruling shows there is no guarantee of unqualified, absolute RoR. shira Jan 2013 #69
I know what the ruling said. YOU claim it supports your statement Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #71
Then you'd know the ruling says you're wrong about RoR. n/t shira Jan 2013 #80
The ruling does not support your blanket claim. The issue should be resolved Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #90
It's not that Shira holds human rights in contempt Scootaloo Jan 2013 #49
Repugnant statements, she does well. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #60
Does the European Court of Human Rights hold human rights in contempt? shira Jan 2013 #63
There have been numerous European court decisions that have gone the other way... shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #51
But that's compensation, not RoR. Exactly my point. shira Jan 2013 #52
You state they, the Palestinians, have no right, period. Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #72
They have no right period to what Hamas and the PLO are demanding. shira Jan 2013 #74
Israel is only a small part of Palestine. Cary Jan 2013 #83
Shira, that statement is far beyond ignorant. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #48
If there was a RoR, why did the European Court of HR vote against it.... shira Jan 2013 #53
My guess would be "asskissing for diplomatic reasons" Scootaloo Jan 2013 #92
Apartheid state? Seriously ? zellie Jan 2013 #6
Looks like a duck, walks like a duck...indeed! eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #7
There goes that theory... again zellie Jan 2013 #9
well that's so nice they got an Israeli citizen who's an Arab to talk up their own country however azurnoir Jan 2013 #13
Good to know. zellie Jan 2013 #14
the PLO which is headed by Abbas recognized Israel as a sovereign state 20 years ago azurnoir Jan 2013 #15
The PLO wants RoR, as you do. Thus, 2 Palestinian states or 3 if Gaza is counted. shira Jan 2013 #17
shira you do realize that there simply are not enough Palestinians for 2 or 3 states azurnoir Jan 2013 #19
If the refugees aren't going to choose to go to Israel, then why are they still in camps? shira Jan 2013 #20
the refugees are still in camps because Israelrefuses to allow any of them to return in accordance azurnoir Jan 2013 #22
That doesn't make sense. If so many Palestinians do not want to go to Israel.... shira Jan 2013 #23
a good number of Palestinians have chosen to go elsewhere as you put it azurnoir Jan 2013 #25
So the reason they haven't been given a choice the past 60 years is.......? shira Jan 2013 #31
I think most would chose their own country azurnoir Jan 2013 #34
They should have been granted their choice decades ago. It's disturbing.... shira Jan 2013 #38
Fascinating reply and quite timely too :) n/t azurnoir Jan 2013 #39
I would have to agree. Is there a Freudiam schlep in the works? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #47
So why weren't they given the choice to live where they wanted (outside of Israel).... shira Jan 2013 #56
So why weren't they given the >>choice to live where they wanted<< R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #86
Belgium? shaayecanaan Jan 2013 #96
You know what makes me sad? zellie Jan 2013 #18
why do you chose to ignore the fact that the PLO recognized Israel 2 decades ago? azurnoir Jan 2013 #21
Honestly zellie Jan 2013 #24
oh so it was not good enough Isee thanks azurnoir Jan 2013 #26
Yes, it was nice....20 years ago. zellie Jan 2013 #27
Their actions speak louder than their signing of a piece of paper 20 years ago shira Jan 2013 #30
oh thanks more rightwing links azurnoir Jan 2013 #32
Oh great, more denying, ignoring, and explaining away Palestinian intransigence shira Jan 2013 #33
oh no shira I enjoy your posts azurnoir Jan 2013 #35
The wrong side . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #79
Labor/Meretz leadership offered a fair deal in 2000-01 while settlement construction cont'd.... shira Jan 2013 #81
Fair to whom? another_liberal Jan 2013 #82
So a fair deal to you would be for Israel to fold, surrender, and be absorbed.... shira Jan 2013 #84
Israel will never "surrender" . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #85
Apartheid is inevitable--the Israeli electorate will permit no other outcome. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #97
They are already there. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #99
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