Israel/Palestine

delrem

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48. The problem with your argument

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 05:59 PM

Dec 2012

The problem with your argument is that it is precisely the argument that someone who agrees with the objective of ethnic cleansing would imagine to be valid. Conspicuously missing is any regard for the universal principles of human rights. In place of these fundamental principles you substitute sophistry to the effect that laws enacted by the ethnic cleansers after the fact can trump all rights.

This is why Palestine should and ought to appeal immediately and directly to the international criminal courts, because only such an overarching body could be objective.

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The Suffering Of Sderot: How Its True Inhabitants Were Wiped From Israel's Maps And Memories [View all] Purveyor Nov 2012 OP

Robert Fisk, no surprise oberliner Nov 2012 #1

Maybe it's time to let old grievances go and move forward in life... ellisonz Nov 2012 #2

Interesting replies azurnoir Nov 2012 #3

Thanks. Scurrilous Nov 2012 #4

Will we see a similarly detailed revelation ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #5

I doubt you'd find anybody here Ken Burch Nov 2012 #7

No shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #10

You need a history lesson. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #11

You need to learn to read shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #14

Quote ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #16

A devastating response... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #18

Well, maybe not as fair and balanced a headline as ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #19

Half is 50%. Did you not really not know this? Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #17

Indeed I did shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #20

Are you hoping people won't click on the link? Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #23

Ah good, so you agree with me... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #24

How very sad. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #26

How very dishonest... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #27

The only dishonesty is yours, which explains your need for name calling. Behind the Aegis Nov 2012 #28

Ah, so you do agree with me... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #29

a third is almost half? sabbat hunter Nov 2012 #25

There is a lot of evidence to support ... holdencaufield Nov 2012 #15

Actually, pretty much only Kahanists believe that... shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #22

No, no, we musn't discuss ethnic cleansing....... kayecy Nov 2012 #6

Would it actually harm anything for the Israeli government to admit Ken Burch Nov 2012 #8

"...does help explain(though not justify)the targeting of Sderot." holdencaufield Nov 2012 #21

sederot was not built on top of huj Mosby Nov 2012 #9

So it was an Arab majority leaving peacefully with a Jewish minority. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #12

So those who live in Sderot aren't "true inhabitants"? cali Nov 2012 #13

They're victims of both sides. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #30

how in the world was Israel supposed to know Mosby Nov 2012 #31

Yes, it was, at that point still part of Egypt Ken Burch Nov 2012 #32

That's hysterical henank Dec 2012 #33

How about allowing Palestinian refugees their right of return? delrem Dec 2012 #34

The Palestinians will have right of return ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #35

How very clever. delrem Dec 2012 #36

"I'm repelled by ethnic cleansing" holdencaufield Dec 2012 #37

Yes, I understand the meaning of term "ethnic cleansing". delrem Dec 2012 #38

No - I use the correct definitions ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #39

As I said delrem Dec 2012 #40

Actually... Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #42

actually... delrem Dec 2012 #43

I'm wrong in neither principle or letter. Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #44

"except for a few, specific, limited areas" oh of course, sure. nt delrem Dec 2012 #46

Correct Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #47

Incidentally Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #45

The problem with your argument delrem Dec 2012 #48

Why are descendants of refugees entitled to RoR into Israel? shira Jan 2013 #49

You can't give it a rest, can you? delrem Jan 2013 #50

Descendants of refugees aren't refugees by International Law... shira Jan 2013 #53

wrong delrem Jan 2013 #59

Now onto your allegations.... shira Jan 2013 #58

reply delrem Jan 2013 #60

As expected. You've got nothing... shira Jan 2013 #61

actually, shira: ethnic cleansing is an abomination, delrem Jan 2013 #62

You're invoking make-believe International Law & lying about yr opponents. shira Jan 2013 #64

The fourth Geneva convention: read it delrem Jan 2013 #65

UN definition (not UNWRA) of refugees.... shira Jan 2013 #63

So according to you Palestinian refugees are all trying to destroy Israel. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #52

Not exactly. But they're all being used in order to destroy Israel. shira Jan 2013 #54

I was asking the person who posted it if they saw anything wrong Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #67

Seriously, is that all you got out of the article? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #51

It's a nasty article. The title even gives it away. shira Jan 2013 #55

I didn't realize yr Cali's spokesperson Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #66

look up Najd delrem Jan 2013 #57

I don't think it's possible to .... delrem Dec 2012 #41

Huj Agony Jan 2013 #56

K & R Scurrilous Jan 2013 #68