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Israel/Palestine

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Jefferson23

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Wed Dec 5, 2012, 04:37 PM Dec 2012

'This Time, Israel Has Defied the Whole World' [View all]

December 4, 2012

Europe is furious with Israel for its plan to build 3,000 new settler units to punish the Palestinians, following their elevation to "non-member observer status" in the UN last week. While sanctions appear not to be on the table, German commentators say it is time to get tough with Israeli premier Netanyahu.

One might think that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Wednesday visit to Berlin could provide for some fireworks. He has come under significant criticism from the European Union for Israel's announcement last Friday that it would build 3,000 new settler homes in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Britain and France denied reports on Monday that they were considering recalling their ambassadors from Israel, though both nations, in addition to Sweden, did vent their anger by summoning the Israeli ambassadors to voice their concerns.


On Tuesday, cooler heads seem to be prevailing. British Foreign Secretary William Hague ruled out the possibility of European sanctions on Israel. "I don't think there is enthusiasm around the European Union … about economic sanctions in Europe on Israel," he said. "I don't believe there would be anywhere near a consensus nor is that our approach." France too has indicated that it would not pursue sanctions.

Furthermore, despite Merkel's own warning on the settlement construction plan -- her spokesman said on Monday that the chancellor was "extremely concerned" -- it seems more likely that the experienced stateswoman would chide Netanyahu in private rather than openly.

remainder: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/german-commentators-blast-israel-for-settlement-building-plan-a-870924.html

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Gawd, they're almost as bad as the Americans. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #1
"youd better stop it or one day you might get a slap on the wrist... bunnies Dec 2012 #2
wow, that sounds bad. Mosby Dec 2012 #3
Building on someone elses land TexasProgresive Dec 2012 #4
It's disputed land. Not someone else's. In fact, E1 was to be Israeli territory.... shira Dec 2012 #5
why can you only talk about the past is the future that scarey or disturbing to you? azurnoir Dec 2012 #6
Just saying E1 would be Israeli territory in any reasonable peace deal.... shira Dec 2012 #7
reasonable for who? you? rightist Israeli's? azurnoir Dec 2012 #8
To Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Arafat. From Rabin to Peres to Olmert in 2008. shira Dec 2012 #9
again with the past Hill and Bill are no longer POTUS and First Lady azurnoir Dec 2012 #10
It's a consensus issue in Israel. Both Left and Right agree.... shira Dec 2012 #12
Well, then, you are a per se, de facto supporter of apartheid in the Holy Land. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #15
Shira doesn't believe political rights are civil rights Scootaloo Dec 2012 #19
Scoot...I never wrote any such thing. It appears the best you've got.... shira Dec 2012 #28
Clearly you did write it, Shira Scootaloo Dec 2012 #47
Don't put words in my mouth. If you have questions about my positions, ask. shira Dec 2012 #48
You're the one who used those words, Shira. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #53
Huh? shira Dec 2012 #24
E1 under Israeli accord was never part of the Geneva Accord. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #34
No there is no consensus globally or otherwise azurnoir Dec 2012 #22
It's a consensus issue in Israel in which both Left and Right agree. n/t shira Dec 2012 #25
No it is not -not anymore at least if iindeed it ever was azurnoir Dec 2012 #27
Yes, it is. Here's Larry Derfner just 2 days ago... shira Dec 2012 #29
well yes in Israel and sadly yes we know the Israeli public prefers azurnoir Dec 2012 #30
Carter and Chomsky endorsed a deal that gave Israel control.... shira Dec 2012 #31
you posted it I did not even though I read that piece days ago azurnoir Dec 2012 #33
Really now? Carter and Chomsky endorsed a deal that gave Israel control over E1 territory? Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #83
You are correct--the problem isn't Netanyahu, it's Israel itself. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #35
No, it's not Israel. It's Shira. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #63
Oh, if only it were so isolated n/t Scootaloo Dec 2012 #87
We know your views on Israel King_David Dec 2012 #90
No, the Left doesn't agree. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #61
See #29 above. Except for the extreme fringe, it's a consensus. n/t shira Dec 2012 #62
Nice back peddle ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #72
Do you consider liberal zionists in Israel to be Left? Or just the extreme fringe? n/t shira Dec 2012 #75
I'm sorry, but I don't acknowledge your question. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #78
On E1 and Maale Adumim, the Left and Right in Israel agree.... shira Dec 2012 #96
Six people who think the Palestinians should get fucked agree; "Fuck the Palestinians" Scootaloo Dec 2012 #17
I thought you said that you supported the Geneva accord shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #42
I do. You don't. In fact, none of your comrades here support... shira Dec 2012 #50
Ma'al Adumim goes all the way to Jericho. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #58
If you go by the Clinton Parameters ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #57
If Arafat made the concessions, why did he reject it? shira Dec 2012 #59
You didn't hear of Taba? Nevermind ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #77
I thought you were against settlements, Shira? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #18
I'm for reasonable land swaps in a future 2 state deal. shira Dec 2012 #26
Let's see: Israel annexes land by force, now - then offers a nuclear waste dump later. delrem Dec 2012 #44
Palestinians could have had their own state way back in 1947 shira Dec 2012 #46
Whoever you're trying to convince, and whatever of, delrem Dec 2012 #49
So why have they rejected one offer after another since 1947? shira Dec 2012 #51
In your own head. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #56
Extremists says Jews have no right to any part of the territories... shira Dec 2012 #60
I held no position ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #73
My original response was to another DU'er who says... shira Dec 2012 #74
Zionists can also be Christian ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #79
And antisemites equate "Israel" and "Jew" Scootaloo Dec 2012 #88
Yes, they do. They're not even hiding it anymore.... shira Dec 2012 #95
Not a surprising response, all considered. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #11
You've gotta admit.... shira Dec 2012 #13
+1 Mosby Dec 2012 #16
This is tantamount to an apportionment position, very sad but not surprising. Jefferson23 Dec 2012 #20
why is that ProIsrael people always equate all Arabs/Muslims to Palestinians? azurnoir Dec 2012 #23
Its simple ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2012 #52
+100 Scootaloo Dec 2012 #54
Oh yeah. Racist zionists in the US are fake progressives. shira Dec 2012 #68
Yes, they are. I'm glad you're catching on. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #89
Fascinating generalization. shira Dec 2012 #94
I don't know. Why is that? Did it happen here recently? n/t shira Dec 2012 #69
Oh, no, look over here! Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #64
That "look over there" is obviously in reverse. shira Dec 2012 #66
You're prolific ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #71
I was agreeing to Mosby's comment. shira Dec 2012 #76
I hope we can be progressive together in another thread! Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #80
Shira does not post outside of I/P. Ever Scootaloo Dec 2012 #91
what's your street address? frylock Dec 2012 #32
that's not a good argument Mosby Dec 2012 #36
your questions are rather nonsensical azurnoir Dec 2012 #37
Sure, Jews should be free to pay taxes to a Palestinian state, rely on the Palestinian geek tragedy Dec 2012 #38
I agree Mosby Dec 2012 #39
Well, you can see issues arising with armed settlers out there. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #40
so what Mosby Dec 2012 #41
Because those settlers tend to be really violent people who hate Arabs. nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #43
Stupid Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #55
The whole world has always been against Israel oberliner Dec 2012 #14
If the whole world was always against Israel, how did the UN manage to create it? nt geek tragedy Dec 2012 #21
textbook insanity nt delrem Dec 2012 #45
I've respected your posts. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #65
They can't all be winners oberliner Dec 2012 #67
I agree ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #70
This particular OP is about Israel feeling like the world is against them oberliner Dec 2012 #81
That's more than a fair concern. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #82
excuse me..but israel does not have such power to end the conflict pelsar Dec 2012 #84
Egypt is in full control of the Muslim Brotherhood? Really? Raksha Dec 2012 #85
a revision is necessary..thanks pelsar Dec 2012 #86
Interesting thing you just said, Pelsar... Scootaloo Dec 2012 #92
I/P conflict Lesson number 1 pelsar Dec 2012 #93
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