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azurnoir

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30. Weiss did not say European Jews were not Jews he said European Jews were not

Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:41 PM

Dec 2015

"people of the book" the term he used was Hebrews - on a religious basis the connection to Israel is there it's the biological one that is being called into question

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Debunking the 3 D’s of Israeli hasbara – distortions, diversions and defamations [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 OP

More... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #78

To be fair 6chars Dec 2015 #80

Wow. What garbage. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #88

Great Post King_David Dec 2015 #89

How are you still posting articles from Mondoweiss? oberliner Dec 2015 #2

what is ridiculous is the hijacking of virtually every ProPeace anti-occupation thread posted azurnoir Dec 2015 #6

NO !!! King_David Dec 2015 #11

this is getting rather tired but here once again for ninth time is Rabbi Lerner refuting Rosenberg azurnoir Dec 2015 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Dec 2015 #26

you really outdid yourself with this one. Mosby Dec 2015 #3

that's not what the article says - some of us actually read stuff ya know here is what is said azurnoir Dec 2015 #5

your propoganda isn't working Mosby Dec 2015 #8

Antisemitic filth .... King_David Dec 2015 #10

The Forward NYT and Haaretz all verified Weiss's remarks azurnoir Dec 2015 #16

Straight people do not get to tell Gays what isn't Homophobic ( some try) King_David Dec 2015 #29

Please there was nothing about homophobia there azurnoir Dec 2015 #31

That post was not about homophobia. nt King_David Dec 2015 #32

you used it as your title line the rest of your post was assumptions azurnoir Dec 2015 #33

The only thing that can be said is that my brilliant argument King_David Dec 2015 #34

whatever you say azurnoir Dec 2015 #35

Oh I got it alright.. King_David Dec 2015 #90

what did you get? state it clearly please azurnoir Dec 2015 #94

No, they didn't. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #91

isn't it also true that if we were to go along strict Halachic law it is the Matriarchal line not azurnoir Dec 2015 #93

Not really. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #95

I notice the switch off between culture, DNA and religion as needed even in a single post azurnoir Dec 2015 #96

What do you mean? Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #97

and what exactly is Palestine? azurnoir Dec 2015 #98

WRT what? Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #99

again context is everything azurnoir Dec 2015 #100

I'll admit, you lost me here. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #101

well you seem to do exactly what Weiss complains about-conflate Jews and Zionist azurnoir Dec 2015 #102

of course I did. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #103

Yet another antisemitic article from Mondoweiss King_David Dec 2015 #9

and Rabbi Michael Lerner refuted MJ Rosenbergs remarks azurnoir Dec 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Dec 2015 #25

Lots of self deletes lately. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #73

since you love to sabbat hunter Dec 2015 #4

Oh, I have no idea which ones are paid vs those R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #13

then who are the oens sabbat hunter Dec 2015 #21

There is no chance anyone talking about,or posting articles about Jewish Bloodlines,could possibly King_David Dec 2015 #46

I would prefer to have sabbat hunter Dec 2015 #55

Thou doth protest too much. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #58

reading through the thread it seems there could be example(s) azurnoir Dec 2015 #7

No kidding. Some are working round the clock R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #12

The 3-Ds are alive and well in this thread. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #14

The article is filth. Here you go, say this loud & clear for the admins.... shira Dec 2015 #15

Genes Suggest European Women at Root of Ashkenazi Family Tree R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #19

Jewish Women's Genes Traced Mostly to Europe — Not Israel R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #20

So say it. What are you waiting for? n/t shira Dec 2015 #23

A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #37

Genetics Expert Insists 75% of Jews Share Roots in Middle East shira Dec 2015 #27

Sure. Like the bible. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #28

Yes. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #92

If Weiss had said this of Mizrahi Jews your outrage would be understandable and well placed azurnoir Dec 2015 #22

Mizrahi Jews could marry converted women of the mideast going back centuries......so? shira Dec 2015 #24

Weiss did not say European Jews were not Jews he said European Jews were not azurnoir Dec 2015 #30

What's really laughable is this Jewish "bloodline " thing you're obsessed about . King_David Dec 2015 #36

Why does such obsession with the "Jewish bloodline" give me the willies? 6chars Dec 2015 #38

well why don't you tell us why it gives you the willies azurnoir Dec 2015 #41

The willies come from the claim that since Ashkenasi Jews aren't racially pure.... shira Dec 2015 #53

It is like a stalker sniffing your underwear 6chars Dec 2015 #72

Pathetic.... King_David Dec 2015 #45

Supremacy has nothing to do with genetics. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #47

" being racially unpure." King_David Dec 2015 #48

You'd expect to see this type of talk on Storm Front, not a Democratic forum. grossproffit Dec 2015 #49

Exactly King_David Dec 2015 #50

The supremacists have this problem with R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #51

Do you personally believe most Ashkenasi are racially impure & thus.... shira Dec 2015 #52

There is no purity or impurity, there is only genetics... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #56

So Ashkenasi have no claim to a Jewish homeland in Israel due to genetics? n/t shira Dec 2015 #59

If an Ashkenazi wants to consider themselves racially pure, R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #62

Do you agree with the author? Mosby Dec 2015 #61

I;m not the one running up and down here going about Weiss's statement being antisemitic filth azurnoir Dec 2015 #39

If it's not antisemitic filth, you should have no problem agreeing that since.... shira Dec 2015 #54

You are becoming unhinged with your buzzwords, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #57

You're deflecting. Do those genetics disqualify Ashkenasi from a Jewish homeland in Israel? shira Dec 2015 #60

Oh, I never deflect when I see you becoming unhinged. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #69

Gee, you just did it again. You can't answer a simple question. shira Dec 2015 #75

... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #83

are you trying to threaten me ? azurnoir Dec 2015 #63

Whatever you say, dave. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #40

This is the only thing anyone needs to know about the article and the entire conflict. aranthus Dec 2015 #42

+1 King_David Dec 2015 #43

THIS!!! grossproffit Dec 2015 #44

All you need is one paragraph to make the OP racist. Little Tich Dec 2015 #64

Agreed King_David Dec 2015 #65

agreed except it is in part the DNA connection that forms the basis of the claim not only to Israel azurnoir Dec 2015 #66

I don't agree with the arguments in the OP in general, but that doesn't really matter. Little Tich Dec 2015 #67

were it not for the factor I mentioned I would agree wholeheartedly azurnoir Dec 2015 #68

Its all laughable nonsense anyhow azurnoir..... Israeli Dec 2015 #70

Who can really play the "I'm racially pure" game anyway. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #74

No one here is playing that game. It's your article that brings up racial purity. n/t shira Dec 2015 #76

Actually, you are doing that. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #84

Only the racist author of that Mondoweiss OP you posted is doing that. shira Dec 2015 #85

If anything, the author proves that the three Ds R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #86

How can you possibly say "agreed" ???? King_David Dec 2015 #71

I think she's waiting for 1 of us to agree w/ her first before she calls it racist shira Dec 2015 #77

Hardly you will never agree this comment says it all azurnoir Dec 2015 #82

I have no idea what connection you're trying to make. shira Dec 2015 #87

I defended the DNA study that you condemn, really you need to read the comment you're replying to azurnoir Dec 2015 #81

What's racist about bringing Jordan into an I/P discussion? shira Dec 2015 #79