Israel/Palestine

shira

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43. Wow! Behold the wonderfully, humane pro-Palestinian viewpoint here!

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 06:28 AM

Jul 2015

It appears you really are against nations giving Palestinians the CHOICE to become citizens in lands they were born in.

A right that every other people has.

Amazing.

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Palestinian village undergoing 'ethnic cleansing' by Israel [View all] R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 OP

Seems like 2naSalit Jul 2015 #1

The real victims? oberliner Jul 2015 #2

Yup. 2naSalit Jul 2015 #3

I don't understand oberliner Jul 2015 #4

What I understood from the comment, and I cannot speak for the poster, guillaumeb Jul 2015 #5

Nothing that you've written here is actually true oberliner Jul 2015 #6

Some clarification: guillaumeb Jul 2015 #7

Ok oberliner Jul 2015 #8

Turks and Palestinians are not the same people. eom guillaumeb Jul 2015 #9

Exactly oberliner Jul 2015 #10

And that makes it acceptable for one group to hand off power guillaumeb Jul 2015 #12

No oberliner Jul 2015 #24

Which has been replaced by a third colonial power. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #25

Yes, Israel has a vast colonial empire rivaling Britain, France, and the Ottoman Empire oberliner Jul 2015 #27

After you're finished throwing out the straw dog argument R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #28

He did, you just don't like the answer. Mosby Jul 2015 #31

Answering with a straw dog argument doesn't cut it. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #32

it's called a "straw man" argument Mosby Jul 2015 #33

Actually, the educated know it is called a straw dog, straw man and even an aunt sally. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #34

aunt sally is british Mosby Jul 2015 #35

And now that you have come to the realization that there are many ways to say the same thing let's R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #36

Your question #4 shira Jul 2015 #11

As to your ideas: guillaumeb Jul 2015 #13

My answers to you.. shira Jul 2015 #17

In regard to your theory of "longstanding presence", guillaumeb Jul 2015 #29

Yes, Palestinians have the right to longstanding presence, absolutely.... shira Jul 2015 #37

The only offer that makes sense and is fair to both sides guillaumeb Jul 2015 #53

Oh really? You're asking more than what the PA & Saudi Peace Plan call for. shira Jul 2015 #55

The Saudis are tools of the US and not to be trusted. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #58

And yet the PA accepts land swaps. You don't. Go figure. n/t shira Jul 2015 #61

Jerusalem should sabbat hunter Jul 2015 #82

Jerusalem was to remain an International City. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #94

Do you believe both ethnic groups have equal rights to the land between the Jordan river and the Little Tich Jul 2015 #15

I believe in 2 nation states side-by-side in peace. Each people with their own land.... shira Jul 2015 #18

So far, so good... Little Tich Jul 2015 #23

The Palestinians say they want a state in the W.Bank & Gaza.... shira Jul 2015 #38

They should be give the right of return from the country that ethnically cleansed them R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #39

Wow! Behold the wonderfully, humane pro-Palestinian viewpoint here! shira Jul 2015 #43

Keep on clutching those pearls when the truth is stated, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #47

You really can't say you support Palestinian CHOICE to either.... shira Jul 2015 #48

"Why the discriminatory attitude against Palestinians?" R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #49

What is amazing is your theory of birthright citizenship. guillaumeb Jul 2015 #54

I believe Jews are indigenous to Israel and the territories. You deny it. shira Jul 2015 #56

No prospective immigrant or refugee has a right to citizenship guillaumeb Jul 2015 #59

They do when they're BORN in those lands. Just like all other people. shira Jul 2015 #62

The crime is not, as you put it, "being born in those nations", guillaumeb Jul 2015 #75

Many refugees during WW2 were driven out but made citizens along with their kids.... shira Jul 2015 #81

Interesting that you have decided what constitutes anti-Palestinian behavior, guillaumeb Jul 2015 #93

Why should one ethnic group have the right to more dibs on their ancestral homeland than the other? Little Tich Jul 2015 #41

I just asked u 2 questions but you're deflecting. I'm still waiting. shira Jul 2015 #42

Interesting R. Daneel that there has been so little discussion about the actual guillaumeb Jul 2015 #14

Look below. n/t shira Jul 2015 #20

(Regavim): Comment: The invention of the village of Susiya Little Tich Jul 2015 #16

That's the response to the OP that some here are asking for.... shira Jul 2015 #19

Did I take the bait, or did you take the bait? n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #21

I commend you for bringing the Israeli side of the argument into play. n/t shira Jul 2015 #22

If I understand your response: guillaumeb Jul 2015 #30

I don't agree with Regavim at all. Little Tich Jul 2015 #40

That's nice, but the fact is no such village existed until just recently... shira Jul 2015 #45

Do u agree with the OP that this is evidence of ethnic cleansing? shira Jul 2015 #46

Of course it's ethnic cleansing. Little Tich Jul 2015 #50

Show me dictionary definitions of ethnic cleansing & apartheid..... shira Jul 2015 #52

Keep on moving those goal posts. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #74

If you're going to make preposterous claims, I'm going to challenge them. shira Jul 2015 #80

The OP wasn't preposterous, my F-grade friend. It's was a statement of fact. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #84

You can't defend the charge of "ethnic cleansing". You know that, I know that.... shira Jul 2015 #89

No matter how much you stomp your feet, make broad R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #92

All the articles slamming Israel for this act are lying about the situation. shira Jul 2015 #44

Wikipedia: Susya Little Tich Jul 2015 #57

Aerial photo from 1999. No historical village. shira Jul 2015 #64

There's an arrow pointing towards historical Susya, called "Archaeological Site" in English. n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #66

Yep, that's an ancient Jewish archaeological site. Now here's an aerial photo.... shira Jul 2015 #69

Some gaps may simply be too large to bridge. Little Tich Jul 2015 #73

I hate, hate, hate the terms "extermination" and "ethnic cleansing." merrily Jul 2015 #26

It's comically sad that some will go to great lengths R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #51

Do you believe Israel expelling Jewish squatters in remote outposts is ethnic cleansing? shira Jul 2015 #60

Not a single settler has a right to live in the West Bank or EJ, Little Tich Jul 2015 #63

That's Hamas propaganda. Translated as no Jews have any right to live... shira Jul 2015 #65

Perhaps the UN should pass a resolution on the subject, affirming the inadmissibility of the Little Tich Jul 2015 #67

They've only had 45 years to do so. shira Jul 2015 #70

They are illegal Israeli settlers. But thak you for conflating Jew to equal Israeli once again. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #68

Show me a binding document stating settlers are illegal. shira Jul 2015 #71

I'm not playing your goal post game tonight, champ. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #72

Got it. You have nothing. Just say so next time. n/t shira Jul 2015 #77

How's that fear of the inevitable BDS coming along? R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #78

You prove how rotten BDS is. As you know, it's based on complete BS.... shira Jul 2015 #83

BDS isn't rotten, poor shira. BDs has a noble cause: the end of apartheid. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #86

It's based on lies & arguments you know you can't justify or defend. shira Jul 2015 #87

There is nothing objective in your posts, IMHO, R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #90

Should your question not be: guillaumeb Jul 2015 #76

If it were illegal according to IHL, then the UN wouldn't have tried in 2011... shira Jul 2015 #79

It's a hoot watching you shell everybody around you with your R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #85

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Too much projection, on your part, is a sorry R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #91

And when they have trouble erasing the Palestinians in one place... R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #95