Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: No, criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism [View all]holdencaufield
(2,927 posts)... from me to you, read what you've just written BEFORE hitting the Post Button. That is free advice.
"Having the State of Israel in existence in 1939 would NOT have prevented the Holocaust. Hitler still wouldn't have let European Jews leave the continent alive, would never have allowed those people to be given Israeli passports(or recognized the legitimacy of those passports). "
As you seem to be (deliberately or not) truly misinformed on this subject, allow me to rebut. Until October 1941, Nazi policy towards Jews emigration was to encourage it. Nearly 40,000 of the 500,000 Jews in Germany emigrated to neighbouring countries directly after the Nazis came to power in '33, more than 100,000 in the years after Kristalnacht. The primary impediment for Jews to leave Germany was the restriction of Jewish immigration to safe countries like Britain and North America.
Had Israel been in existence in '39 -- it would have guaranteed the lives of more than a million Jews. Hitler might still have implemented his final solution -- but a huge percentage of European Jews would have been spared. Turning the Holocaust into just another massacre of Jews (history is rife with them).
But, then, you know that -- because in your very next paragraph, you spell out that exact problem...
"The Holocaust was the United States' and Canada's fault, for barring the Jewish refugees when those countries KNEW what Hitler was going to do..."
Why do you argue against your own supposition? Are you confused, or just unsure of the fact?
"...we believe that they not only impose injustices upon Palestinians(most of whom are innocent, decent, nonviolent human beings just trying to get through their day"
Nothing could be more true. The same could be said of everyday Israelis, Germans, Japanese, Iraqis, or Afghans (name the population). However, the everyday Palestinians maintain a leadership that dedicated itself to the destruction of Israel decades BEFORE occupation. It is at best disingenuous and at worst racist to say that only the Palestinians can bear no responsibility for the actions of those who have governed them for 70 years. Israelis bear the direct consequences of their government's actions -- Palestinians (being equal partners in the conflict) deserve an equal share of complicity.