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GliderGuider

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21. In my view there are no culprits
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:57 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:08 PM - Edit history (1)

There are simply actors at different essential levels of the dissipative hierarchies of human societies. Very, very few people (in any modernish country) actually want to reduce their consumption if they don't have to. We spend most or all of our money in order to maximize our physical or social power for our own benefit. Any money that may be left over gets is put in banks where it is promptly used by those who have an opportunity to produce more power for their own purposes.

The urban poor are just as beholden to the carbon system for their survival as the CEO of Exxon. We comfort ourselves by concentrating on the details. That allows us to ignore the big picture - the one that shows us the real face of the boogeyman, who just happens to look a lot like us.

How much are wind and solar really reducing CO2 emissions? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #1
Good question, but does anyone have the answer? Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #2
If every home had PV and wind GliderGuider Dec 2013 #4
I share your contempt for consumerism. Iterate Dec 2013 #14
+1 kristopher Dec 2013 #17
It may sound odd, but I don't actually feel any contempt for consumerism. GliderGuider Dec 2013 #20
You iterate very well my friend. +100 Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #25
Hmmm, Yuppie me! defacto7 Dec 2013 #26
The Co2 cost to build.................. FogerRox Dec 2013 #23
Sounds good to me. Let's keep building them and consuming less. Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #24
How much are you really reducing CO2 emissions... kristopher Dec 2013 #3
I just did a new CO2 footprint calculation GliderGuider Dec 2013 #5
It isn't your bones that are at issue kristopher Dec 2013 #6
Here's the "right-wing" thing as I see it GliderGuider Dec 2013 #7
That's clever kristopher Dec 2013 #10
Thank you! GliderGuider Dec 2013 #12
Why would he? FBaggins Dec 2013 #13
Certainly I disagreed... kristopher Dec 2013 #16
Emission of CO2 from the Danish power/CHP generation fell by 17.3 per cent in 2012 Iterate Dec 2013 #11
"Less than bad news" is a good way of putting it. GliderGuider Dec 2013 #15
culprits Iterate Dec 2013 #18
In my view there are no culprits GliderGuider Dec 2013 #21
NOT MUCH!!! is the answer PamW Dec 2013 #8
NRG CEO Crane: Power grid will soon be 'last resort' kristopher Dec 2013 #9
Any is better than none madokie Dec 2013 #19
Is it? How? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #22
I would find survival very difficult without renewable energy. Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #27
I don't think that was quite the thrust of madokie's comment, but GliderGuider Dec 2013 #28
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