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GliderGuider

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4. If every home had PV and wind

Thu Dec 12, 2013, 10:22 PM

Dec 2013

Last edited Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:37 PM - Edit history (1)

There would still be the factories that make all our other shit, including the panels and turbines. And "every home" includes one hell of a lot of people who are damned unlikely to have yuppie solar panels on their carefully oriented and shingled roofs, or battery packs in the basement any time soon.

We're not being mindlessly consumerist, we are being mindfully consumerist. It's our our life-program, bequeathed to us by the Second Law of Thermodynamics, evolutionary psychology and the Maximum Power Principle. Every decision we make is carefully calculated to maximize our consumption within the limits of the money and debt available to us. It's how we roll.

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Just How Much Are Solar and Wind Really Contributing? [View all] kristopher Dec 2013 OP

How much are wind and solar really reducing CO2 emissions? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #1

Good question, but does anyone have the answer? Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #2

If every home had PV and wind GliderGuider Dec 2013 #4

I share your contempt for consumerism. Iterate Dec 2013 #14

+1 kristopher Dec 2013 #17

It may sound odd, but I don't actually feel any contempt for consumerism. GliderGuider Dec 2013 #20

You iterate very well my friend. +100 Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #25

Hmmm, Yuppie me! defacto7 Dec 2013 #26

The Co2 cost to build.................. FogerRox Dec 2013 #23

Sounds good to me. Let's keep building them and consuming less. Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #24

How much are you really reducing CO2 emissions... kristopher Dec 2013 #3

I just did a new CO2 footprint calculation GliderGuider Dec 2013 #5

It isn't your bones that are at issue kristopher Dec 2013 #6

Here's the "right-wing" thing as I see it GliderGuider Dec 2013 #7

That's clever kristopher Dec 2013 #10

Thank you! GliderGuider Dec 2013 #12

Why would he? FBaggins Dec 2013 #13

Certainly I disagreed... kristopher Dec 2013 #16

Emission of CO2 from the Danish power/CHP generation fell by 17.3 per cent in 2012 Iterate Dec 2013 #11

"Less than bad news" is a good way of putting it. GliderGuider Dec 2013 #15

culprits Iterate Dec 2013 #18

In my view there are no culprits GliderGuider Dec 2013 #21

NOT MUCH!!! is the answer PamW Dec 2013 #8

NRG CEO Crane: Power grid will soon be 'last resort' kristopher Dec 2013 #9

Any is better than none madokie Dec 2013 #19

Is it? How? GliderGuider Dec 2013 #22

I would find survival very difficult without renewable energy. Starboard Tack Dec 2013 #27

I don't think that was quite the thrust of madokie's comment, but GliderGuider Dec 2013 #28