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PamW

(1,825 posts)
43. Sure....
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:25 PM
Feb 2013

RobertEarl,

The peak concentration of radioactivity that you quote above is the 3700 mBq/m3 of I-131.

Let's calculate just how much I-131 there is for 3700 mBq.

First 3700 mBq ( milli-Becquerel ) is 3.7 Bequerels

We need the radioactive decay constant of Iodine-131. The half-life of I-131 is 8.0197 days:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131

Let's convert that to seconds:

8.0197 days = 8.0197 days * 24 hours / day * 3600 sec / hour = 692902.08 sec

The decay constant is the natural logarithm of 2 divided by the half-life:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/halfli2.html

decay constant lambda = ln(2)/692902.08 sec = 1.00035e-06 inverse seconds

The radioactivity in Becquerels is equal to the product of the decay constant in inverse seconds and the number of atoms of the radioactive material:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/halfli2.html#c3

dN/dt = -lambda * N ( the negative sign means the number of radioactive atoms goes down due to the decay )

The radioactivity is the magnitude ( absolute value ) of dN/dt

So lambda * N = 3.7 Bq

So N = 3.7 Bq / 1.00035e-06 inverse seconds = 3.699e+06 atoms

A "mole" is 6.023e+23 atoms. So the number of moles we have is

#moles = 3.699e+06 atoms / 6.023e+23 atoms/mole = 6.141e-18 moles

The mass of a mole is the atomic weight in grams. Since the atomic weight of I-131 is 131; then there are 131 grams per mole of I-131.

So the mass of the Iodine-131 with 3700 mBq is

mass = 6.141e-18 moles * 131 grams/mole = 8.044e-16 grams

which is a bit less than 1.0e-15 grams. 1.0e-12 grams is a trillion-th of a gram. 1.0e-15 is one thousand times less.

So the amount of Iodine-131 in that 3700 mBq is less than one-thousand-th of one-trillion-th of a gram.

Congratulations your largest radioactivity above is a MANIFESTLY TRIVIAL amount of I-131.

The radioactivity measured in Lithuania from Fukushima is just like the radioactivity measured in California from Fukushima; a fantastically TRIVIAL amount.

That radioactivity is 10s of thousands of times LESS than what Mother Nature is giving you courtesy of the fact that her Earth is radioactive, and Mother Nature is making new radioactivity all the time due to cosmic rays.

Now WHY are we concerned about this manifestly trivial amount of radioactivity, when Mother Nature is blasting us with 10s of thousands of times MORE?

Do you think someone would get upset if you brought a handful of sand to the beach? Do you think they would get upset that you were doing environmental damage by adding a handful of sand to what the beach naturally has? Are you "over-sanding" your beach?

This is one of the problems with the anti-nukes; they don't understand the science. They see a number like 3700, and think that 3700 of anything is a lot. They don't understand that a Becquerel is a really, really small amount of radioactivity. A mBq is a thousand times less.

One of the things that the anti-nukes really fail to appreciate is that we have the technology to detect EXTREMELY small amounts of radioactivity.

In answer to your question about what I thought of the facts you posted; NOT MUCH.

Why should I, or you for that matter; be concerned with such a TRIVIAL amount of radioactive material?

Mother Nature is blasting us with orders of magnitude more; and the anti-nukes are focused on this minutia, just because it came from Fukushima.

Go figure.

PamW



TEPCO Rose [View all] Octafish Feb 2013 OP
What "murder of 8 billion people" are you talking about? wtmusic Feb 2013 #1
I imagine that refers to plutonium exposure. Octafish Feb 2013 #2
Sounds like the seabirds are healthy. wtmusic Feb 2013 #3
According to your way of thinking, wtmusic, plutonium must be good for you. Octafish Feb 2013 #4
Is that what passes for logic these days? FBaggins Feb 2013 #8
Fantastic catch! Octafish Feb 2013 #11
What about him/her? FBaggins Feb 2013 #12
Lady Barbara Judge is the subject of the post. Do you have anything to add about her? Octafish Feb 2013 #13
She's the subject of the thread... not the post. FBaggins Feb 2013 #18
Thanks. Very astute observation, FBaggins. Octafish Feb 2013 #29
This is where EDUCATION is needed.. PamW Feb 2013 #34
I like education Thanks Pam RobertEarl Feb 2013 #35
Spontaneous fission. PamW Feb 2013 #36
Turbine steam was in direct contact with the MOX fuel? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #37
Actually... PamW Feb 2013 #40
Tell us what you think of this, Pam RobertEarl Feb 2013 #41
Sure.... PamW Feb 2013 #43
Plutonium Pam RobertEarl Feb 2013 #44
I've looked... PamW Feb 2013 #46
Denying science again, aren't you, Pam? Yep. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #49
I don't doubt the Lithuaninan scientists.. PamW Feb 2013 #51
Bravo. wtmusic Feb 2013 #38
Pam sure made this clear RobertEarl Feb 2013 #39
You need to cool a reactor.. PamW Feb 2013 #42
Wow, Pam. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #45
Again... PamW Feb 2013 #47
Another profound statement RobertEarl Feb 2013 #50
I'm glad you AGREE!! PamW Feb 2013 #48
She's not suggesting they are thinking about re-starting parts of the Dai-ichi plant is she? AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #5
Her hiring may be a PR move of the first stank rather than as a professional fixer-upper. Octafish Feb 2013 #6
K&R RobertEarl Feb 2013 #7
Nuclear war is crazy. Nuclear weapons are crazy. Nuclear power is crazy. Octafish Feb 2013 #9
There's tons spread around the world WITHOUT the bunkers. PamW Feb 2013 #10
That paper was published in 2002. It's a good bet there's a lot more plutonium now. Octafish Feb 2013 #14
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! Everything you said was 100% WRONG!!! PamW Feb 2013 #15
Uhhh, Pam? You do know this, right? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #16
I hope she doesn't know it... FBaggins Feb 2013 #19
Hey, ya seen #4 RobertEarl Feb 2013 #20
Another straw man? FBaggins Feb 2013 #21
Building #4 has crumbled RobertEarl Feb 2013 #23
WRONG AGAIN!!! PamW Feb 2013 #25
There are TONS of spent MOX (PLUTONIUM and URANIUM!!!) outside that core in the spent fuel pools. Octafish Feb 2013 #32
Another thread you should review FBaggins Feb 2013 #33
You're kidding, right? FBaggins Feb 2013 #26
Self-righteous anti-nukes. PamW Feb 2013 #28
You'll get a kick out of today's Dilbert FBaggins Feb 2013 #30
I'll have to send this to my colleague.. PamW Feb 2013 #31
YES - volatile materials PamW Feb 2013 #22
Thank you for straightening me out, PamW. Octafish Feb 2013 #17
But you need to be an engineer... PamW Feb 2013 #24
Scientifically - I agree with the TEPCO assessment PamW Feb 2013 #27
Lady Barbara Judge to give David J. Rose Memorial Lecture at MIT PamW Feb 2013 #52
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