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wtmusic

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12. I don't understand the purpose of deeper thought if it's merely an expression of hopelessness.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 03:13 AM
Dec 2012

This post represents a different perspective. In it you acknowledge the possibility of survivors, of people alive beyond our "execution date". That though the world will be profoundly different 100 years from now, it will likely be surviveable for some. How? What can we do now to prolong that date, even by a few decades?

When you talk about permaculture or faster computers, I want to know why you find these idea attractive. But unless you're religious there's not much choice to believe that "man is the measure of all things, the arbiter of all value, and that everything we do should be judged only in relation to its impact on human beings". When you make a judgement about the future of genetic diversity, you really don't care about genetic diversity at all - you care about how the destruction of GD makes you feel. But at least it represents a concern which isn't entirely selfish. When you talk of a post-apocalyptic generation which can work in cooperation, you not only acknowledge there might be a post-apocalyptic generation, but that it might aspire to a loftier goal than survival. That kind of thinking is inspirational and courageous.

Despair, hopelessness, acceptance, endpoints, blah. It's laziness under pseudo-intellectual cover.

LFTR,read up on it and watch the videos. jonthebru Dec 2012 #1
Its biggest problem is the uranium mining industry wtmusic Dec 2012 #2
Me, too. And I am famously anti-nuke (the dangerous waste-generating kind). kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #3
Not me. I'm now anti-nuke all the way. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #4
That's where a carbon tax comes in wtmusic Dec 2012 #5
How do you make every country on the planet go along with it? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #6
Either you believe a solution is possible, or you don't. wtmusic Dec 2012 #7
Do you think a solution is possible? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #9
I don't understand the purpose of deeper thought if it's merely an expression of hopelessness. wtmusic Dec 2012 #12
There are seven billion different ways of finding value in existence. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #14
Oh, I'm all about LFTR, but we have to be honest about it. joshcryer Dec 2012 #8
But the top story is about a current project. Not some future pipe dream. jonthebru Dec 2012 #10
U233 not required. wtmusic Dec 2012 #13
Right, the "round about way." joshcryer Dec 2012 #15
No wtmusic Dec 2012 #17
Since it takes about a decade to build a reactor after permission is granted. joshcryer Dec 2012 #21
Your assumptions are based on no historical precedent wtmusic Dec 2012 #22
WEll, do you got a timeline when you think it will be built? joshcryer Dec 2012 #23
It could be built in 5 years. wtmusic Dec 2012 #25
Flibe Energy exists, though. joshcryer Dec 2012 #26
Again, you don't understand. PamW Dec 2012 #19
Then why does the thorium community want U233? joshcryer Dec 2012 #20
Having a hard time understanding? PamW Dec 2012 #27
God, you didn't even read my original fucking post here. joshcryer Dec 2012 #31
Evidently you don't understand how it works... PamW Dec 2012 #18
I was not aware that the thorium community wanted to start it with U235. joshcryer Dec 2012 #24
What U-233? PamW Dec 2012 #28
We have roughly 450 kg of U233 from the nuclear program. joshcryer Dec 2012 #32
Order of magnitude shy... PamW Dec 2012 #34
They want to start with a small reactor. joshcryer Dec 2012 #37
Where does it say that? PamW Dec 2012 #46
"So a LFTR, started on U-233..." Read the article? joshcryer Dec 2012 #47
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #52
Politics played the biggest role, I admit. joshcryer Dec 2012 #53
For a guy who doesn't approve of energy, you certainly spend a lot of time on the internet. NNadir Dec 2012 #29
Why not? Arguing on the internet is a great way to pass the time till dinner. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #30
I'm just noting that many of the advocates of killing off humanity in an orgy of primitivism... NNadir Dec 2012 #57
Fishing again? nt GliderGuider Dec 2012 #58
There's a difference between advocacy and observation. joshcryer Dec 2012 #59
It's passive poverty. wtmusic Dec 2012 #33
Your lame attempt at moral bullying is duly noted. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #35
That's very profound, but in truth wtmusic Dec 2012 #36
What aspects of my expressed positions do you feel are hypocritical? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #38
This is ground that we've already covered but it's best phrased as a question wtmusic Dec 2012 #39
I don't approve or recommend dieoff. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #40
Inaction is approving dieoff. wtmusic Dec 2012 #41
Die off certainly isn't recommended. joshcryer Dec 2012 #44
Why do you give geoengineering a 50/50 shot? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #49
Sulphate aerosols are known to work (volcanos prove it). joshcryer Dec 2012 #50
Of course they "work" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #51
The results would be devestating either way. joshcryer Dec 2012 #54
Time will tell NoOneMan Dec 2012 #55
Necessity mainly. joshcryer Dec 2012 #56
Only if one feels that action will prevent it. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #45
Bad action is hastening dieoff NoOneMan Dec 2012 #48
BALONEY!!!! PamW Dec 2012 #16
The name "Thor Energy" XemaSab Dec 2012 #11
I noticed that, too! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #42
Yay for my fellow Norskies! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #43
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