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In reply to the discussion: Brazil's Dilma Rousseff's Popularity Ratings Down To 20-Year Low [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)93. I guess they've got paid shills over at GUARDIAN UK, too, then? They're saying they didn't turn out.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/15/brazil-protesters-rouseff-impeachment-petrobas
Many said they were marching because of the Petrobras scandal, which has seen 57 politicians, including former president Fernando Collor de Mello, investigated for kick-backs worth at least $3bn (£2.03bn). Rousseff is not under investigation but as a former chair of Petrobras during the period when much of the corruption took place, she has struggled to avoid being tainted by a scandal that has implicated allies and opponents alike.
Although all the major parties have been dragged into the mire, most of those implicated are from the ruling coalition and the demonstrators were collecting signatures calling for the impeachment of Rousseff.
Its unbelievable. They arent politicians. They are criminals, said India Longras, who beat a frying pan painted with Fora Dilma. I was born in the military dictatorship. It was a lot better than now. If I had to choose between then and now, Id choose dictatorship. Education was better, crime was low and the poor lived with dignity.
Calls for a military coup were less evident at the bigger rallies in São Paulo and Brasilia. Sundays protests were the biggest in Brazil since 2013, but the profile and politics of the participants were very different and they passed more peacefully. The Confederations Cup demonstrations two years ago had their origins in a campaign to secure free public transport and spread rapidly particularly among the young, via social networks after police violence inflamed public opinion. The latest wave of protests, however, is from an older, whiter, more affluent demographic, following widespread advance coverage by the mainstream media.
Anticipating this, the Workers Party organised a rally last Friday in support of the government and state control of Petrobras, but there were less than a thousand people at their main demonstration in central Rio.
Although all the major parties have been dragged into the mire, most of those implicated are from the ruling coalition and the demonstrators were collecting signatures calling for the impeachment of Rousseff.
Its unbelievable. They arent politicians. They are criminals, said India Longras, who beat a frying pan painted with Fora Dilma. I was born in the military dictatorship. It was a lot better than now. If I had to choose between then and now, Id choose dictatorship. Education was better, crime was low and the poor lived with dignity.
Calls for a military coup were less evident at the bigger rallies in São Paulo and Brasilia. Sundays protests were the biggest in Brazil since 2013, but the profile and politics of the participants were very different and they passed more peacefully. The Confederations Cup demonstrations two years ago had their origins in a campaign to secure free public transport and spread rapidly particularly among the young, via social networks after police violence inflamed public opinion. The latest wave of protests, however, is from an older, whiter, more affluent demographic, following widespread advance coverage by the mainstream media.
Anticipating this, the Workers Party organised a rally last Friday in support of the government and state control of Petrobras, but there were less than a thousand people at their main demonstration in central Rio.
This is the left-liberal paper, mind you:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/17/brazil-crisis-petrobas-scandal-dilma-rousseff-protests
The Petrobras scandal was high among a long list of grievances that brought people to the streets on Sunday. Estimates of the number of protesters range from hundreds of thousands to more than 1.5 million huge by any standard. Countless others also came to their balconies and windows to clang their pots and pans in disapproval at government policies. The domestic media reported demonstrations in more than 160 cities.
Workers Party struggles
It was a shock for the Workers Party, which rose to power through mass mobilisations, but now appears to have lost the streets. Pro-government rallies called by trade unions two days earlier attracted only a tiny fraction of this interest. In São Paulo, the turnout was around 10,000. In central Rio, it was probably less than 1,000.....
Workers Party struggles
It was a shock for the Workers Party, which rose to power through mass mobilisations, but now appears to have lost the streets. Pro-government rallies called by trade unions two days earlier attracted only a tiny fraction of this interest. In São Paulo, the turnout was around 10,000. In central Rio, it was probably less than 1,000.....
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Why don't you write to the author of the article and get those names and report back?
MADem
Mar 2015
#2
yeah, they are the dozens that showed up for the feeble Friday pro-corruption march nt
Bacchus4.0
Mar 2015
#4
I've given you several articles with names in them. If you want to pretend there's nothing to see
MADem
Mar 2015
#15
You're the one who misread the article in the first place--and now you're yelling at everyone
MADem
Mar 2015
#45
See? You just proved my point. "The author of the thread" said NOTHING of the sort.
MADem
Mar 2015
#56
So I'm guessing you consider The Guardian to be an unreliable right-wing source? N/t
Marksman_91
Mar 2015
#8
You need to go back and do some reading. CAREFUL reading. One. Word. at. a. time.
MADem
Mar 2015
#29
Prove it. Name them, and their political affiliations. If you can't do that, we'll know what
MADem
Mar 2015
#36
I know more about it than someone who can't tell a charge from an investigation. nt
MADem
Mar 2015
#31
No--you need to post those details in THIS thread, and not spam the board with multiple threads
MADem
Mar 2015
#48
You're having trouble reading the article, apparently. Go back and read it slowly.
MADem
Mar 2015
#23
Do prosecutors release the names of people who are under "INVESTIGATION" before they've
MADem
Mar 2015
#26
Our friend is playing games, he is the one asserting that the politicians are NOT
Bacchus4.0
Mar 2015
#37
The poor little " new ... DUer" attacked the thread starter with a false assertion.
MADem
Mar 2015
#59
If you don't post them here, I will have to assume that you are here at DU to disrupt.
MADem
Mar 2015
#40
It's not a question of what I like--when you post multiple threads on the same topic, you are
MADem
Mar 2015
#49
Why do you keep calling me "Honey?" Does that make you feel tough or superior, or something?
MADem
Mar 2015
#64
Dilma Rousseff did not fight against the right-wing military dictatorship, suffer horrific torture
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#46
It truly is, isn't it? Progressive people support Dilma Rousseff and her entire life's work. n/t
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#57
Attacks seem to be concentrated on the same battlefield by the same platoon with the same dud ammo.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#69
Rousseff is now under attack by the same folks attacking Maduro, Morales, anyone not kowtowing to
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#55
They don't conceal their real political leanings at all. No one is fooled. n/t
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#58
Just have to make sure they get it that they are not fooling any onlookers either.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#63
Truly, no one on DU is being fooled into demonizing entire emergent socialist Latin America. People Power is here to stay.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#61
She has reached a Maduro level approval rating. Her scandal and the economic
Bacchus4.0
Mar 2015
#85
Had forgotten about their training manuals. They've been doing the same things a LONG time.
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#74
I rather doubt that the people who voted for her, and now are saying she needs to go, are fascists.
MADem
Mar 2015
#62
No, looks like that is YOUR error: "Brazil's mounting job losses turn Rousseff bedrock to quicksand"
MADem
Mar 2015
#87
Not that many people consider financial magazines as true guides to the inner workings
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#90
Rousseff is the like the Latin American Warren and the Aztec Amazons wrapped into one real life super hero.
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#66
Elizabeth Warren would have not allowed all of that corruption over the course of a decade.
MADem
Mar 2015
#70
Good one! Some have been known to simply turn in articles based on tv news in their hotel rooms.
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#91
I guess they've got paid shills over at GUARDIAN UK, too, then? They're saying they didn't turn out.
MADem
Mar 2015
#93
Apparently you've not paid close attention to the Guardian over the last years.
Judi Lynn
Mar 2015
#96