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Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
1. Interesting.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:11 AM
Dec 2011

Don't know what to make of it yet, but it certainly fits the general tenor of things in Latin America that Latin America has had it with outside (mainly U.S.) interference and is not going to take it any more!

United, they can throw off the bully U.S. and its lackeys, Canada and England. The U.S. and Canada were very pointedly not invited to join the new all-Latin America organization, CELAC, one of whose main purposes is to defend individual countries' sovereignty and independence by, at long last, pulling together as a region and exercising their collective clout.

The Falklands are certainly a sovereignty issue for Argentina. And the Brits have been pushing the dispute by claiming too much of Argentina's oil in the Atlantic near the Falklands and Argentina's coast.

It's worrisome, though, as a potential flash point for U.K. and U.S. joint military action to destabilize, "divide and conquer" and destroy the leftist democracy movement that has swept the region. That's why I say I'm not sure what to think of it. But I'm pretty sure that Argentina's leaders and their allies have thought this matter through quite thoroughly and know what they are doing. It looks like they have jointly chosen this issue as a beginning point for establishing the independence of the region.

Interesting. Peace Patriot Dec 2011 #1
sounds juvenile to me Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #2
I read probably last week that perception of the Malvinas as British-owned is certainly not shared Judi Lynn Dec 2011 #3
Is it shared by the people who live there? naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #4
I am sure the people that live there could adapt. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #33
A nice argument for taking away people's freedoms. naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #36
New Mexico adapted to US rule. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #37
Argentina tried that... CJvR Dec 2011 #41
You just restated what I've been saying. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #44
My point? naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #42
That's two points, not one. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #43
OK then, naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #46
I am acknowledging reality, as history has shown it to be. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #47
I agree with you naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #51
Short distance? CJvR Dec 2011 #40
Are you against self determination naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #5
you won't get an answer from her Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #6
Except... CJvR Dec 2011 #8
I agree, it really wasn't Spain's to give anyway n/t Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #9
It is an outpost that can be used by the UK for military operations in the future. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #12
Yes clearly... CJvR Dec 2011 #16
It makes perfect sense, actually. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #20
Before... CJvR Dec 2011 #22
"Argentina's imperial ambitions"?!!?? OHMYGOSH Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #23
Well... CJvR Dec 2011 #25
My stance is that this argument has no bearing on the matter. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #26
One of the more... CJvR Dec 2011 #27
Actually, ocpagu Dec 2011 #28
Except... CJvR Dec 2011 #29
Colonialism? Imperialism? Business as usual? Payback? nt bemildred Dec 2011 #30
Except... CJvR Dec 2011 #32
I'm just explaining that there are lots of things that you can call it. bemildred Dec 2011 #45
specious arguments about self determination? naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #31
Great Britain, complaining about imperialism? Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #34
Huge Difference naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #35
Really! CJvR Dec 2011 #39
Self determination is a relative principle ChangoLoa Dec 2011 #14
Remember ChangoLoa Dec 2011 #15
Yeah! CJvR Dec 2011 #7
In reply to points above, I think the dispute is mostly about the oil... Peace Patriot Dec 2011 #10
how do you know they are tied without choice to Britain? Bacchus4.0 Dec 2011 #11
I said they are tied without choice to horrors like the war on Iran... Peace Patriot Dec 2011 #18
My rule of thumb, concerning propaganda, is that the exact opposite is often truer. Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #38
Yes, I tend to thiink of it as informing me of what the parties in question are afraid of mostly. nt bemildred Dec 2011 #48
The Irony Beast destroys everything in its path. nt Boston_Chemist Dec 2011 #49
Simple minds see the world in simple ways. nt bemildred Dec 2011 #50
Tied without choice naaman fletcher Dec 2011 #13
LOL! CJvR Dec 2011 #17
Thanks for the info in your comment... Peace Patriot Dec 2011 #19
There are tons of material out there... CJvR Dec 2011 #24
Time to bring back the "Iron Hen"? bemildred Dec 2011 #21
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