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That is true - they hate our democracy and how "we" manage our society - but they are rather well known in the rules to get all type of benefits - this gentleman I am talking about is able to get more then 20.000 NKR every mount - and even then is stating what he is stating rather publicly - that he hate our country or way of life -and that he would love to travel to IS or to Syria/Iraq to defend the honor of Islam.... No one is forcing him to be in Norway - but he is here with all the benefits theafter...
And he have a past as a criminal - a small time thief - well to be honest - not that small time thief - as he was rather ruthless and violent back in his youth - but in one of his time behind the bars he claimed to have discovered his faith - and also have traveled to London where it is a few of the more firebrand islamic clerics and discovered the "true" faith.... And he have been able to make some way into the young who might not have to deep and understanding about what Islam is about - as one friend of me once said - he is a muslim by the way - "many young have no clue what Islam is - they have no compass to guide them - and they believe what the more radical clerics says instead of their parents or Imans who might not be as violent as the extremist are.. And most important -they do not read the Quran - and ponded what it might state" - I think he is into something - as the Quaran is a rather complicated book to read - if you read it in arabic - as arabic is a rather poetic language - who can state a lot of things according to your own understanding of the language and the Quran...
And some also things they can act as a form of mafia - in Islams name - and they do get a lot of money from people who either support their views - or are to scared to deny them the money - and many of them who is part of the Islams Ummah is indeed former or current criminals - who have been using their faith to fork other peoples money into their own pockets - or who live rather well on the benefits from the same country they hate and want to destroy.....
I do not believe they would be able to make Western democracy into Islamic States ruled by Sharia - even if they might dream about it - the fact is, if they had reading their european history - is that europe as a continent have been rather well to defend their way of life against the Islamic onslaughts again and again - if you go back the middle of the 700 AD - Most of Spain was under the rule of a Islamic empire - stretching from Spain to the border with China - a World Empire.. Europe on the other hand was a dirt poor continent - devastated by the movements of the emigrations of the last couple of centuries (at least from the 390s and forward) - the Roman Empire was some of a old dream - the empire as such had imploded in 476 AD - and the kingdoms was not yet able - to organize them self into powerfully entities who could fight for the power - most of the land was in the hands of barons or other noblemen - who was more willing to fight against them self and the King - rather than against an common enemy - but in the early 700s - a man named Karl Martell (The Hammer) was able to muster enough military power - to fight off - and destroy a great army coming up from Spain to Portier in the province of Provence - using some rather interesting tactics who was able to fool the arabic army who was many times its size - and also had been fighting and winning most of the wars they had been into for more than a year... The battle of Portier is seen as some of a water shed in european history - the first time europeans was able to not just fend off - but even to devastate a whole arabic army... After that devastating crush - no arabic army was send to europe - even if the arabic naval forces was devastating the coastal areas of the western part of the meditarian for a long time after Portier... For that reason - a lot of the trade routes in Europe changed from the coastal areas to more inland areas - who was safer and less prone to attack from pirates of all shades... And should be one of the main reasons many of the old roman fortresses and castles survived - and found new foundations for trade city's and places where people could find safeguards against the rather unpleasant of the dark/middle ages - for some the smell in the middle ages city's was the smell of freedom... Even if the smell was rather unpleasant to our noses..
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